Western sydney digital tower
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Western sydney digital tower
https://www.9news.com.au/national/we...?app=applenews
There are at least 5 factual errors in this report. Was this poor research by Ch 9 or something more sinister.
How can we have "absolute" safety?
Gne
There are at least 5 factual errors in this report. Was this poor research by Ch 9 or something more sinister.
How can we have "absolute" safety?
Gne
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What bothers me is that there seems to be an extraordinarily high reliance in the design and planning of this here airy-port upon the advice of extremely highly-paid consultants with little to no experience in their respective tasks to hand. Maybe this is just another example? Only time will tell.
My question is why bother?
Build a data centre miles away or a tower
I can't see them saving on staff
Add in the expense of a bunch of cameras plus maintenance
You cant replace a set of eyes even with 1000 remote cameras
It's like they are doing this just to prove they can
Build a data centre miles away or a tower
I can't see them saving on staff
Add in the expense of a bunch of cameras plus maintenance
You cant replace a set of eyes even with 1000 remote cameras
It's like they are doing this just to prove they can
I'm retired so I probably do not have access to the required separation standards; however,
Camera images are not visual separation as defined by any manuals I have access to, the usefulness of a control tower is (was) all about visual separation.
Radar separation between successive aircraft is 3NM, typically visual separation can accommodate close approaches, successive departures on diverging tracks, and go-arounds until a radar standard can be applied.
Eyeball separation has no tolerances applied to the image in the controller's brain. The eye is presumed to have an uninterrupted power supply, is backed up by the eyes of other tower controllers, has an advanced display system called the retina, and an advanced intelligence system attached that can instantly detect a subtle deviation from the cleared flightpath or taxiway. What tolerances will be applied to artificially generated images shown to a controller on a television screen? The new services will also be classed as screen-based, hence subject to the screen break requirements for the controllers = more controllers.
I love the identification capabilities of the camera system, but, once again, does the aircraft have to squawk ident to ensure the label is correct?
So many questions.......
Camera images are not visual separation as defined by any manuals I have access to, the usefulness of a control tower is (was) all about visual separation.
Radar separation between successive aircraft is 3NM, typically visual separation can accommodate close approaches, successive departures on diverging tracks, and go-arounds until a radar standard can be applied.
Eyeball separation has no tolerances applied to the image in the controller's brain. The eye is presumed to have an uninterrupted power supply, is backed up by the eyes of other tower controllers, has an advanced display system called the retina, and an advanced intelligence system attached that can instantly detect a subtle deviation from the cleared flightpath or taxiway. What tolerances will be applied to artificially generated images shown to a controller on a television screen? The new services will also be classed as screen-based, hence subject to the screen break requirements for the controllers = more controllers.
I love the identification capabilities of the camera system, but, once again, does the aircraft have to squawk ident to ensure the label is correct?
So many questions.......
What could go wrong?
WOT CUD POSIBLY GO RONG...???
'Controllers' some 20km away - why not make it at the Gold Coast and really enjoy the after hours?
Carnt look out de windows no more.....OOOPPPSSS......!!!
'Controllers' some 20km away - why not make it at the Gold Coast and really enjoy the after hours?
Carnt look out de windows no more.....OOOPPPSSS......!!!
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Wasn’t this trialled at Alice Springs? I assume if they could get it to work there (and I don’t know the results of the trial - I’m just assuming it did) they probably have a shot at getting it to work in Sydney.
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INTAS for Eastern Sydney International TWR, 17 years and still waiting…
Ah well could not have been that important..
INTAS cost hmmm close to a billion…..see what you mean…
GOTTA LOVE THE SMARTEST MEN IN THE ROOM!
Why is it Airservices attracts so many managers afflicted by DUNNIG-KRUGER Syndrome
TECHNOLOGY SEARCHING FOR USE….
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But what about the promised high tech jobs for Western Sydney?
WSI, Landing yesterdays jobs, tomorrow.
Speaking at today’s Canterbury-Bankstown Business Chamber Business After 5 event, Mr Hickey announced the initiative and told around 500 guests that WSI has opened the door to exciting new possibilities in Western Sydney for everyone.
“The airport will redefine and reshape our region, pulling the centre of economic gravity toward the west, bringing with it not just more jobs, but higher-quality, higher paying jobs,” he said.
“People will no longer have to travel to the east to be a software engineer, a university lecturer or even a CEO. The transformation underway means these jobs are coming to Sydney’s West. “
“The airport will redefine and reshape our region, pulling the centre of economic gravity toward the west, bringing with it not just more jobs, but higher-quality, higher paying jobs,” he said.
“People will no longer have to travel to the east to be a software engineer, a university lecturer or even a CEO. The transformation underway means these jobs are coming to Sydney’s West. “
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Airservices Australia trialled a remote tower at Alice Springs (YBAS) over ten years ago.
How's that been going for them?
How's that been going for them?
Alice Springs seems like an appropriate fit to actually find a suitable workforce to operate the tower.
ASP & Crime.
ASP & Crime.
Australia’s most dangerous city.
I've heard it is occasionally un-staffed for a good chunk of the time now, putting additional load on ENR controllers working that sector from Melbourne.
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