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Old 20th Feb 2024, 03:38
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The “new” A319 that network has might be scrapped shortly, they have figured out it’s clapped out and a complete piece of ****.

it’s not going anywhere but the junk yard.
Another day, another ground return for the 319
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Old 20th Feb 2024, 06:04
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Another day, another ground return for the 319
So, where did they find this prime example of modern technology.
Obviously was so good that any other prospective buyers by passed it as too good for them.
The ex spirit gems they have found should also prove to be a great acquisition.
Did they come with spares or deemed as surplus to requirements🫣
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 01:24
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Originally Posted by Lapon
How about the Qantas group announce another 35 XLRs, and SH will be presented with various SI's to secure the aircraft (on top of the existing variations)?

Is SH in negotiations currently/shortly?
Seems rather coincidental the timing of that if so.
Frankly, the shorthaul pilots I speak to couldn’t give a flying, well, you know. If the strategy is to hold the 35 new jets like a knife to their throat, they couldn’t care less. It’s the same old bully tactics - but Australian pilots aren’t playing by their rules any more.

Look at all the major airlines around the world - they know there’s a decades long pilot shortage coming. They are desperately insourcing subsidiaries (rather than outsourcing), and competing to keep their staff happy. They know that if you don’t attract people to stay, you’re going to be stuffed in the long run.

QF are still the only ones playing the same old divide and conquer, outsource and threaten games. They don’t seem to know any other way. All this talk about getting better, but still playing the same old game plan.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 19:57
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I’m looking forward to the coming 18 months of EA negotiations. Like many people, we worked during COVID to ramp up two business ventures, I no longer need Qantas to pay my bills. Many Australians, aircrew in particular, learned that they can do other things to make a living. Put the gun to my head, pull the trigger, I don’t give a f@#$. I’ll smile and move on with life, minus the constant jet lag.

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Old 21st Feb 2024, 21:04
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8 additional A321XLRs. Better than 0 i guess.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 21:05
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Originally Posted by ROH111
35 x A321XLR’s to be announced as coming to Qantas Mainline on Thursday.

Taking the total order to 55 replacing roughly 75 B737’s in the long run.

Crewing numbers will be increased from what the 737 currently is: this is based on extended range flying with overnights chewing up crew numbers.

A319’s (ex network) rumoured to be switched across to Mainline if Network keep up these antics.
Only off by 27.

More share buybacks. The mind boggles
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 21:12
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More share buybacks. The mind boggles

Imo, buy backs are for companies that have nothing better to do with their money like re-investing in the business, new fleet, training, spares, extra staff etc.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 21:16
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Share buybacks.... Does Boeing McDonnell Douglas ring a bell??? That turned out real well!!
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Centre of Pressure
8 additional A321XLRs. Better than 0 i guess.
The rest will come when the 'strategic imperatives' are met in the next EA....
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Window heat
I’m looking forward to the coming 18 months of EA negotiations. Like many people, we worked during COVID to ramp up two business ventures, I no longer need Qantas to pay my bills. Many Australians, aircrew in particular, learned that they can do other things to make a living. Good the gun to my head, pull the trigger, I don’t give a f@#$. I’ll smile and move on with life, minus the constant jet lag.
My thoughts exactly, every negotiation they have said ‘if you persist we may just shut you down’, this time around the majority of pilots will just say ‘go ahead’.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 22:03
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8 additional A321XLRs. Better than 0 i guess.
I do wonder where 35 came from?
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 22:27
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Originally Posted by VHOED191006
I do wonder where 35 came from?
Most likely the currently planned total.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 22:29
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They gave each person in management a different number to see where the leak was 😁

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Old 21st Feb 2024, 23:30
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Originally Posted by VHOED191006
I do wonder where 35 came from?

directly from Doug Alley
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 23:45
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Striking workforce at Network are being rewarded with more jets…

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Old 21st Feb 2024, 23:54
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75 738s to go over 10 years so an order of 8 XLRs to replace a year’s worth of 738 retirement makes sense, if they’re just ordering a years worth of replacements at a time.
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Old 22nd Feb 2024, 02:50
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Striking workforce at Network are being rewarded with more jets…
Flown by whom?
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Old 22nd Feb 2024, 02:55
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Originally Posted by dr dre
75 738s to go over 10 years so an order of 8 XLRs to replace a year’s worth of 738 retirement makes sense, if they’re just ordering a years worth of replacements at a time.
So no actual increase of aircraft to Mainline but significant increases to both NAA and NJS…
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Old 22nd Feb 2024, 03:17
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So no actual increase of aircraft to Mainline but significant increases to both NAA and NJS…
alliance jungle jet's quietly hoovering up all the rest just look at adelaide almost no more mainline flying once network takes over per adl route
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Originally Posted by dr dre
75 738s to go over 10 years so an order of 8 XLRs to replace a year’s worth of 738 retirement makes sense, if they’re just ordering a years worth of replacements at a time.

No one would be particularly disappointed, (beyond the usual disheartening sinking feeling of the last 15 years that we’ve all become used to watching Mainline shrink away), had statements along the lines of “we think you pilots will be very happy”, and the talking up of potentially ‘big’ order numbers supposedly directly from upper flight ops, not been made.

It wasn’t just some run of the mill pilot rumor that there’d be a large order inbound. It had reportedly been stated with a considerable confidence only a week or so ago.
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