Joyce ‘retires’ early 👍
Can we stop calling them sides or teams? It's not black and white, good vs evil.
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short flights long nights
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They flew out of TLV to LHR on a QF 787. Then from LHR to Oz on a chartered QR flight, probably because the existing QF flights were full.
And yes good decision to suspend any further repat flights. Ben Gurion is less than 40nm from the fighting. Most international carriers have suspended TLV ops.
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Qantas hangover a headache for directors on other boards
It looks like having the Qantas Board on your CV might not be as helpful as it once was (Article by Elizabeth Knight in the SMH):
Qantas hangover a headache for directors on other boards
Until six months ago, being a non-executive director of Qantas was way more than just a resume stuffer, it was membership of an elite group – a trophy board. These days, it carries reputational damage sufficient to even be a career crusher.
This notion was put to the test on Tuesday when Qantas non-executive director Maxine Brenner received a 17 per cent protest vote against her candidacy for the Telstra board at its annual general meeting.
This wasn’t based on her performance as a Telstra director but she, along with other Qantas directors, has been infected by her place on the airline’s board whose now well-documented governance failings are legendary.
If Telstra is the warm-up for the big Qantas AGM event next month, chairman Richard Goyder will be bracing for impact.
Brenner has been something of a darling of the non-executive-director club since getting her start on the board of Orica more than 10 years ago.
But snaring a seat on the Qantas board jettisoned Brenner’s career, which also includes directorships of Woolworths and Origin.
Two of Qantas’ incumbent directors must have noted with trepidation the protest vote Brenner received at Telstra.
With a 17 per cent vote against her, Brenner’s position at Telstra was demonstrably safe – it fell well short of the 50 per cent needed to remove her.
But compare this with the result of another Telstra director up for re-election – the far lesser known Ming Long. She received a 99 per cent vote in favour from shareholders.
Brenner, alongside other directors, carries with her the Qantas baggage. How that plays into their chances of being appointed to other boards remains to be seen.
Brenner is not up for re-election at the Woolworths AGM this year so will be spared the possibility of a repeat performance.
The potential for a decent-sized vote against Brenner at Telstra was already on the radar. It followed a report from influential shareholder proxy adviser ISS that argued against Brenner’s election noting “material failures of governance, board and risk oversight and fiduciary duties” at Qantas, where she has been a director since August 2013.
In particular, ISS pointed to legal action launched by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission over the airline selling tickets on cancelled flights, the High Court ruling on the illegal firing of 1700 workers during the pandemic, and problematic pay practices.
But Telstra chairman John Mullen came to Brenner’s defence and shut down the debate about the corporate governance failings at Qantas bleeding into her performance at the telco. He branded these questions inappropriate.
Arguably Brenner should have been safer than some other Qantas directors given the recent announcement she is stepping down from the airline’s board next year, along with Jacqueline Hey.
Two of Qantas’ incumbent directors that are up for re-election to its board this year are Belinda Hutchinson and Todd Sampson – the former being the University of Sydney chancellor and a former director of some of corporate Australia’s largest listed companies including chair of QBE Insurance, and a director of Telstra, Coles, Energy Australia, TAB, and AGL Energy.
Sampson, a former Fairfax director, also appears to no longer sit on any other public company boards.
These two must have noted with trepidation the protest vote Brenner received at Telstra.
If Telstra is any guide, what can be expected in early November will be a fiery event.
The recently appointed directors up for re-election at Qantas will be safely appointed. Brenner, Hey and Goyder are not up for re-election but have already announced they will leave next year but won’t escape criticism.
The other incumbent, Tony Tyler, isn’t up for re-election so avoids the firing line.
With former chief Alan Joyce leaving early, shareholders won’t have the real target of their anger before them.
But given the board approved Joyce selling $17 million of Qantas shares and thus far barely docked his $20-million-plus pay packet, shareholders are limbering up to let the board know what they really think.
Qantas hangover a headache for directors on other boards
Until six months ago, being a non-executive director of Qantas was way more than just a resume stuffer, it was membership of an elite group – a trophy board. These days, it carries reputational damage sufficient to even be a career crusher.
This notion was put to the test on Tuesday when Qantas non-executive director Maxine Brenner received a 17 per cent protest vote against her candidacy for the Telstra board at its annual general meeting.
This wasn’t based on her performance as a Telstra director but she, along with other Qantas directors, has been infected by her place on the airline’s board whose now well-documented governance failings are legendary.
If Telstra is the warm-up for the big Qantas AGM event next month, chairman Richard Goyder will be bracing for impact.
Brenner has been something of a darling of the non-executive-director club since getting her start on the board of Orica more than 10 years ago.
But snaring a seat on the Qantas board jettisoned Brenner’s career, which also includes directorships of Woolworths and Origin.
Two of Qantas’ incumbent directors must have noted with trepidation the protest vote Brenner received at Telstra.
With a 17 per cent vote against her, Brenner’s position at Telstra was demonstrably safe – it fell well short of the 50 per cent needed to remove her.
But compare this with the result of another Telstra director up for re-election – the far lesser known Ming Long. She received a 99 per cent vote in favour from shareholders.
Brenner, alongside other directors, carries with her the Qantas baggage. How that plays into their chances of being appointed to other boards remains to be seen.
Brenner is not up for re-election at the Woolworths AGM this year so will be spared the possibility of a repeat performance.
The potential for a decent-sized vote against Brenner at Telstra was already on the radar. It followed a report from influential shareholder proxy adviser ISS that argued against Brenner’s election noting “material failures of governance, board and risk oversight and fiduciary duties” at Qantas, where she has been a director since August 2013.
In particular, ISS pointed to legal action launched by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission over the airline selling tickets on cancelled flights, the High Court ruling on the illegal firing of 1700 workers during the pandemic, and problematic pay practices.
But Telstra chairman John Mullen came to Brenner’s defence and shut down the debate about the corporate governance failings at Qantas bleeding into her performance at the telco. He branded these questions inappropriate.
Arguably Brenner should have been safer than some other Qantas directors given the recent announcement she is stepping down from the airline’s board next year, along with Jacqueline Hey.
Two of Qantas’ incumbent directors that are up for re-election to its board this year are Belinda Hutchinson and Todd Sampson – the former being the University of Sydney chancellor and a former director of some of corporate Australia’s largest listed companies including chair of QBE Insurance, and a director of Telstra, Coles, Energy Australia, TAB, and AGL Energy.
Sampson, a former Fairfax director, also appears to no longer sit on any other public company boards.
These two must have noted with trepidation the protest vote Brenner received at Telstra.
If Telstra is any guide, what can be expected in early November will be a fiery event.
The recently appointed directors up for re-election at Qantas will be safely appointed. Brenner, Hey and Goyder are not up for re-election but have already announced they will leave next year but won’t escape criticism.
The other incumbent, Tony Tyler, isn’t up for re-election so avoids the firing line.
With former chief Alan Joyce leaving early, shareholders won’t have the real target of their anger before them.
But given the board approved Joyce selling $17 million of Qantas shares and thus far barely docked his $20-million-plus pay packet, shareholders are limbering up to let the board know what they really think.
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A Qantas A380 ferried to London on Monday and is on it's way home via Dubai. Using an ASY callsign. Due in Sydney tonight.
AJ made the front page of the Herald-Sun in Melbourne today with long lens photos of him in Ireland. It must be galling for him, previously feted by media, business and government, to be treated like an exile forced to hide in a faraway land. He and Tony Mokbel have both received the same treatment though AJ, whilst not being welcomed with open arms, won't end up in Barwon Prison on his eventual return to Australia.
funny how qanta's suddenly becomes the beloved national airline when it comes to rescuing refugees's but at other time's its a private company that must cut cost's to make profit's so outsources all maintenance overseas, majority of widebody maintenance is now done overseas and australlia no longer has a national airline with local maintenance capabalities for its own fleet so much for a national airline
funny how qanta's suddenly becomes the beloved national airline when it comes to rescuing refugees's but at other time's its a private company that must cut cost's to make profit's so outsources all maintenance overseas, majority of widebody maintenance is now done overseas and australlia no longer has a national airline with local maintenance capabalities for its own fleet so much for a national airline
By the way, have you seen that massive hangar in Brisbane that does heaps of A330 maintenance?
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...and please remove all of the apostrophes because all five are wrongly used, then insert one in the only place one should have been used.
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AJ made the front page of the Herald-Sun in Melbourne today with long lens photos of him in Ireland. It must be galling for him, previously feted by media, business and government, to be treated like an exile forced to hide in a faraway land. He and Tony Mokbel have both received the same treatment though AJ, whilst not being welcomed with open arms, won't end up in Barwon Prison on his eventual return to Australia.
Would be interesting to know where the husband is presently.
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I think I've mentioned it before on this thread, but I wonder what would happen if Joyce refused to return to Australia for the Senate enquiry? 
And I wouldn't mind betting that he would do exactly that! Refuse, that is...
Gerry 111; And I wouldn't want to know either!!!!
And I wouldn't mind betting that he would do exactly that! Refuse, that is...
I don't know where he is and won't guess where he has been.
AJ made the front page of the Herald-Sun in Melbourne today with long lens photos of him in Ireland. It must be galling for him, previously feted by media, business and government, to be treated like an exile forced to hide in a faraway land. He and Tony Mokbel have both received the same treatment though AJ, whilst not being welcomed with open arms, won't end up in Barwon Prison on his eventual return to Australia.
AJ made the front page of the Herald-Sun in Melbourne today with long lens photos of him in Ireland. It must be galling for him, previously feted by media, business and government, to be treated like an exile forced to hide in a faraway land. He and Tony Mokbel have both received the same treatment though AJ, whilst not being welcomed with open arms, won't end up in Barwon Prison on his eventual return to Australia.
Parky then inquired as to even given that, was there anything Gough admired about Kerr? Whitlam replied (to Parky's surprise) "Yes. Indeed there is!!". "What?" inquired Parky, to which Whitlam responded "His decency in remaiming OUT of the country".
I hear all the vitriol, some warranted, being poured on AJ and I think to myself, to paraphrase Whitlam, at least we should be grateful that he at least has the decency to remain out of the country!!
Or, dare I say, "refugeesezz".
I should just let it wash over me, the education system obviously is a horse that bolted long ago. It's why we have people when using the word 'debut' have been heard to pronounce it "day-booted".
I think I've mentioned it before on this thread, but I wonder what would happen if Joyce refused to return to Australia for the Senate enquiry?
And I wouldn't mind betting that he would do exactly that! Refuse, that is...
Gerry 111; And I wouldn't want to know either!!!!
And I wouldn't mind betting that he would do exactly that! Refuse, that is...
Gerry 111; And I wouldn't want to know either!!!!
I guess his assets could be frozen if he's charged with contempt of parliament but I'll defer to legal experts as to what degree that would or would not be legal or justifiable. I'm sure there will be some method of him getting over it by having his partner liquidate their Australian assets.