AIPA to AFAP

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by spiritofoz

how would aipa handle a HR dispute differently than AFAP would?

Not much difference. Either you’ve breached company policy or you haven’t, and whatever union you have representing you isn’t going to make much difference to the final outcome.

This isn’t like the 1950s where powerful unions could protect misbehaving members.

[ddrwk]

Originally Posted by spiritofoz

and how long ago were the foundations of these EAs negotiated?

The SH agreement? That award (as it was back then) was forced onto pilots as a complete reset after some event that took place in 1989. Pilots had no (positive) input into it and it was 11 pages long.

[ddrwk]

Originally Posted by dr dre

Not much difference. Either you’ve breached company policy or you haven’t, and whatever union you have representing you isn’t going to make much difference to the final outcome.

I disagree. Sure a union can’t change the fact that you may have breached something, but how you’re dealt with from that point can be significantly impacted not only by the quality of your representation, but whether you have any representation at all.

[maggot]

Originally Posted by dr dre

Not much difference. Either you’ve breached company policy or you haven’t, and whatever union you have representing you isn’t going to make much difference to the final outcome.

This isn’t like the 1950s where powerful unions could protect misbehaving members.

Its not just that black and white.

I don't know though, that's why I asked.

[Xhorst]

Originally Posted by mince

The only union with any balls in this country is the TWU. The sooner everyone gets on board with them the better off we will all be…..

Did you notice that just about every TWU member in Qantas was recently out-sourced?

Nice work, TWU.

[1234fly]

the loyal network lifers some happen to be AIPA reps who appear to have stockholm syndrome....the same ones who pushed the crap EBA back in 2016 on the pilot group are all due for big back pays. looking like they are going to take care of themselves rather than look at the big picture for all the pilots in the airline/all of australia....race to the bottom or pure selfishness?