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Old 27th Jul 2023, 06:34
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Apparently to avoid having the flying go to one of the other entities in the group (divide and conquer 101), the Pilots were forced to accept another substandard EBA. Nothing new there I suppose, but just one of the "Pineapples" was being able to have the roster disrupted without mutual consent, a mere 3 days prior, rather than the accepted 2 weeks! When you factor in the planned long international sectors, a definite new low

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A little more than 30 pieces of silver!
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Old 27th Jul 2023, 06:37
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
It’s been said before:

E Jets = Old Cobham NJS work
A220 = B737 work
A321 = A330 work

It’ll be their 10 year plan.

No more engineers needed to dispatch domestic aircraft. Cheaper Pilot wages with less complex EAs. Upper management all walk away with millions.
Delta is pretty happy with the A220 expanding their fleet. Replacing ejets/mad dogs/717s. Longer legs, less fuel, better cabin experience for customers. Many of the strategies there will be copy and paste to QF.

The A220-300 can fly the same range as the A320neo, more than capable of flying BNE-DPS, SYD-MNL burning a lot less fuel. It will offer a lot of solutions for FIFO (TSV-ZNE) as well as opening up secondary international routes, eg CBR-AKL, ADL-AKL.

They are working on a A220-500 which will be around 170 seats, 20 more than the A220-300.

A321neo is a 756/767 replacement, A330 still can carry a lot more freight, fine for pax replacement flights.
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 10:00
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I’ve heard rumours that these blokes were given new employment contracts and told if they refused to sign they would not be eligible for any future discretionary or bonus payments and have their Staff Travel benefits removed.
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 10:20
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What people seem to not get their heads around is that slots aren’t increasing at airports. Every port is getting busier, but more slots aren’t magically appearing. Airports still aren’t building 20 year overdue runways. So aircraft need to be bigger.

Whilst I don’t doubt that some mainline work will go to NJS, these A321’s are needed for the triangle, plus other busy routes and also new emerging medium haul international markets. Why would QF commit to more than 20 when they don’t have a crystal ball to see 7 years down the track when we all go down the aviation rollercoaster again? Many 737’s have a lot of life left in them and the fleet replacement will take time with a dual fleet for a period. Whilst I don’t think we’ll see 75 x A321’s I think 50-60 would be in the ball park with the remainder being in the A330 replacement aircraft.
The replacement is being announced at the full year results and if you old guys think a smaller aircraft can replace the current capacity with the debacle of Australian airports and their slot system, you have to be kidding yourself.

As for the E190/A220, yes there will be work for them as a significant amount of new routes have been started throughout covid. This will naturally take some passengers from the main routes and more evenly distribute pax around the network.
I’m a young guy, and an interesting trend to keep an eye on is the price increases in airfares since COVID and more and more full aircraft flying around the skies. Qantas expending less and moving full planes around, keeping their premium customers in an exclusivity bubble, might be the way to keep the shareholders happiest. Extra bums on seats for everyone else, I suppose. Reducing the numbers of seats in aircraft whilst maintaining that premium aura might just be what they’re after.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 09:03
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NJS ( or Nat Rex or Rex Jet ?) experienced B717 crews have to commit to 3yr $30k bond for the A220 BomBus. Ok if you’re in the right age group but if you’d been in NJS for 25+ yrs you may be wanting to plan a timely exit strategy ?
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 09:07
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Originally Posted by MacTrim
NJS ( or Nat Rex or Rex Jet ?) experienced B717 crews have to commit to 3yr $30k bond for the A220 BomBus. Ok if you’re in the right age group but if you’d been in NJS for 25+ yrs you may be wanting to plan a timely exit strategy ?
No bond applies to transfer from the B717 to the A220.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 09:23
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NJE is owned by REX. NJS is now a Qantas Group company.

The people that bought Cobham sold off all the different sections

Airline Services NJS - Qantas
Regional Services NJE - Rex
Special Mission - Leidos

From what I’ve heard NJS terms and conditions went backwards and they’re hating their new owners. NJS and Special Mission are happy enough with their owners.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 09:52
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Originally Posted by MacTrim
NJS ( or Nat Rex or Rex Jet ?) experienced B717 crews have to commit to 3yr $30k bond for the A220 BomBus. Ok if you’re in the right age group but if you’d been in NJS for 25+ yrs you may be wanting to plan a timely exit strategy ?

Haha, even if it were true, anywhere you go with that endorsement (likely the US) 30k is only a months salary after tax. But as someone has said it’s a non bonded endorsement. You would think NJS and Qantasss would be looking after their staff right now.
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Old 4th Aug 2023, 11:45
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Originally Posted by transition_alt
What people seem to not get their heads around is that slots aren’t increasing at airports. .......Airports still aren’t building 20 year overdue runways. So aircraft need to be bigger.
No they don't. Slots aren't predicated just on RWY capacity. They take into account the rest of the airport infrastructure - check in capability, security capability, baggage handling capability etc.as well. Basically how many people can be moved through the building in a given time. If for instance your capacity in a rolling hour is 1000 people, then once your schedules reach that 1000, no more slots are approved. It doesn't matter if those 1000 are on 3 aircraft or 10, the declared capacity is fixed. It's reviewed seasonally, but fixed for the season. An airline wishing to upgauge to a larger aircraft may in fact lose their slot, all other things remaining equal. In fact, 3 737's arriving 10 minutes apart is easier for the airport to handle than 1 A380 dumping 550 pax at once. Of course more aircraft require more physical infrastructure, but sometimes not much more than less larger ones.
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TIEW, good to see the tail wagging the dog.
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 02:47
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
No they don't. Slots aren't predicated just on RWY capacity. They take into account the rest of the airport infrastructure - check in capability, security capability, baggage handling capability etc.as well. Basically how many people can be moved through the building in a given time. If for instance your capacity in a rolling hour is 1000 people, then once your schedules reach that 1000, no more slots are approved. It doesn't matter if those 1000 are on 3 aircraft or 10, the declared capacity is fixed. It's reviewed seasonally, but fixed for the season. An airline wishing to upgauge to a larger aircraft may in fact lose their slot, all other things remaining equal. In fact, 3 737's arriving 10 minutes apart is easier for the airport to handle than 1 A380 dumping 550 pax at once. Of course more aircraft require more physical infrastructure, but sometimes not much more than less larger ones.
So I’m holding at BMFUK because of check in staff? K
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Old 5th Aug 2023, 05:08
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So I’m holding at BMFUK because of check in staff? K
No, you're holding at BMFK because there is not enough staff (and probably not good enough equipment) to handle the appropriate arrivals/departures. You could compare Perth or Melbourne to just about any other developed country airport (apples for apples wrt runways etc) and realise that in some cases the movements per hour would be less than half in ar5etrayla
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 01:23
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Delays to A220 deliveries according to ASX announcements. If my maths is correct does that not leave NJS with only 2 aircraft in July 2024? All 717s retired and only 2 A220s delivered.
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 01:57
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Delays to A220 deliveries according to ASX announcements. If my maths is correct does that not leave NJS with only 2 aircraft in July 2024? All 717s retired and only 2 A220s delivered.
Surely if that scenario was looking likely they’d delay retirement of 717? Or am I being too logical?
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 02:38
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Delays to A220 deliveries according to ASX announcements. If my maths is correct does that not leave NJS with only 2 aircraft in July 2024? All 717s retired and only 2 A220s delivered.
Makes sense for how many crew they will have left at that point in time
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 21:48
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in fact they are accelerating the retirement program....rumours of ferrying two airframes at a time to the graveyard near vegas
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Old 25th Aug 2023, 02:08
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Originally Posted by sandsthrudahrglass
in fact they are accelerating the retirement program....rumours of ferrying two airframes at a time to the graveyard near vegas
This isn't factual at all
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Will there be an A220 Brisbane base?
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Old 6th Sep 2023, 13:24
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Will there be an A220 Brisbane base?
Id expect to see them everywhere that currently has Qantas 737s.
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Id expect to see them everywhere that currently has Qantas 737s.
Because they'll be flown by Qantas pilots on the SH award.
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