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Old 10th Jun 2023, 07:00
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The beard thing is still debatable, FAA circular AC 120-43 sill stands, but has never prohibited beards. However Air Canada conducted a study using it's own oxygen masks (and only up to 25,000ft) after which the airline allowed trimmed facial hair. So far not sure what grounds you could refuse someone wear a skirt though, especially if they are Scottish or an islander.
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Old 10th Jun 2023, 10:05
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I’m told there’s a bunch of mid to high level “project” types looking at the safety of various ponytail positions, so once that mountain is conquered they can spend a few years defining an acceptable stubble?
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Old 10th Jun 2023, 23:59
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The beard thing is still debatable
Military guys sporting beards wear oxygen masks and seem to have few issues, we had a few flying the A-4. Photo of the real "Goose", on whom the Tom Cruise movies are based, sporting a beard while flying the F-4.


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Old 11th Jun 2023, 00:38
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If it was good enough for Pierre Béard then it should be good enough for QF Flight Tech! Viva la Béard revolution comrades!



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Old 11th Jun 2023, 02:47
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All the pilots pushing for beards need to just back off a bit.
As a management pilot I’m finding there is a creeping sense that individuals can do whatever they wish with their facial hair, shoes, clothes, political beliefs etc. It’s very difficult for me, and I see nobody jumping up and down about that. Ever since I was a small child growing up in England I’ve been on the outside, a bit too awkward, a bit too weedy. My teen years were similar, very difficult to get my peers to listen to me, and as a middle aged man I have the same situation at home, children and a wife who wander out of the room half way through very important messages I’m trying to convey to them. The Australian aviation scene is the only place I’ve felt listened to. My deep commitment to pedantry at an almost cellular level has been celebrated by my superiors and now the whole kit and caboodle is being put at risk by people who have decided it’s ‘optional’ as to whether they listen to me or not.
So with that in mind, all I ask is that you think of how people like me feel every now and then. I’m pretty sure there are about 300 of you for every one of me and I often feel alone, threatened, and left out when you waaahh on about your individual wants and needs. The one place I felt good is now under attack and just a little bit of deference would be nice, appreciated even.
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Old 11th Jun 2023, 04:02
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Oooooh! Very well done. Kudos.

See if you can rewrite it with “lower classes” mentioned somewhere.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 02:04
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https://www.9news.com.au/national/we...6-0683c5869fa2
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 02:30
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What will become of SYD once WSI opens? Will SYD still operate in to the future?
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 03:40
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What will become of SYD once WSI opens? Will SYD still operate in to the future?
I actually wonder what will become of WSI apart from a few freighters and the occasional LCC movement once any 'sweetner deals' expire.

Hope to be proven wrong, but apart from the curfew, Mascot as a location is better for just about everything else: distance to city and Sydney tourist hotspots, onwards air connections, public transport, and home to a fairly significant number of Sydney siders.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 04:21
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Yeah.. From the news article posted above:

"It would be quite devastating for people in the Blue Mountains," he said.
"At the moment, we live in an environment which is pristine and we have a very low ambient noise. Any kind of overflights will be very impactful."
It does seem (from faraway Melbourne) that everyone west of SYD is screaming blue murder with the release of the preliminary flight paths for WSI.

I do feel sorry for those that fly out of Bankstown. It seems there'll be a narrow corridor to get in and out and that's about it.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 04:49
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Originally Posted by Lapon
I actually wonder what will become of WSI apart from a few freighters and the occasional LCC movement once any 'sweetner deals' expire.

Hope to be proven wrong, but apart from the curfew, Mascot as a location is better for just about everything else: distance to city and Sydney tourist hotspots, onwards air connections, public transport, and home to a fairly significant number of Sydney siders.
The Customer and Staff experience at WSI will leave Mascot for dead. Let's not beat around the bush here, Mascot is global poor standard be it airside, carpark or transport.

They are forecasting by 2050 it will overtake Mascot, 2060 second runway operational.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 05:19
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The Customer and Staff experience at WSI will leave Mascot for dead. Let's not beat around the bush here, Mascot is global poor standard be it airside, carpark or transport.
Mascot is overloaded by any measure and most of the infrastructure is well over 30 years old, so, all things considered, it's doing pretty well. Hey, at least there's a train to the airport.. (unlike Melbourne)

The Customer and Staff experience at WSI might well be better.. but only because no-one will be able to get to their flights due to the rioting locals outside complaining about the flight paths.

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They are forecasting by 2050 it will overtake Mascot, 2060 second runway operational.
HAHAHAHA!! That's great. Thanks for making my day.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 05:33
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Haha "Welcome international visitors to WSI, take the 10pm Metro to St Mary's and join the Blacktown line to the city for a true western Sydney Experience." "If you have time, we also recommend a quick stop in Mount Druit for a unique cultural adventure"

Yeah, nah don't see WSI taking over SYD for international traffic anytime soon.

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Old 27th Jun 2023, 07:01
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Where’s the cheapest area to buy a house near airport and how to officially lodge a noise complaint and who wants to join me in starting a movement to close down airport or compensate me for future loss of house value ?
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 07:01
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Originally Posted by cLeArIcE
Haha "Welcome international visitors to WSI, take the 10pm Metro to St Mary's and join the Blacktown line to the city for a true western Sydney Experience." "If you have time, we also recommend a quick stop in Mount Druit for a unique cultural adventure"

Yeah, nah don't see WSI taking over SYD for international traffic anytime soon.
You could set up a tourist shop in the terminal and sell "I climbed Mount Druitt" t-shirts...
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 07:56
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Originally Posted by KAPAC
Where’s the cheapest area to buy a house near airport and how to officially lodge a noise complaint and who wants to join me in starting a movement to close down airport or compensate me for future loss of house value ?
Better yet, start printing those anti airport hats, t shirts and badges to start selling to the locals. I see the BNE anti noise brigade are flogging off merchandise now.

They take it to new levels up that way. I joined the Facebook community for a laugh, someone was complaining about an aircraft overflying at FL360!

You won’t have any issues getting those Greenies on board. They will assist you KAPAC in your mission! They would shut down the world if they could.
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 08:19
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You could set up a tourist shop in the terminal and sell "I climbed Mount Druitt" t-shirts...

Don’t you mean 'I climbed Mt Druitt and survived'?
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 08:29
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Bring on the curfew - working between 6 and 11 sounds good to me!
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Old 27th Jun 2023, 22:07
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Love all these people moaning about the "devastation"some noise will cause them, it's hardly a surprise, the site was planned for an airport about 70 years ago. The NIMBY brigade well and truly alive
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Old 28th Jun 2023, 00:17
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Love all these people moaning about the "devastation"some noise will cause them, it's hardly a surprise, the site was planned for an airport about 70 years ago. The NIMBY brigade well and truly alive
To be fair to the locals and Bankstown Airport student pilots, your first sentence is not correct. Wikipedia (that internet font of all wisdom the rest of us have forgotten), indicates that there have been many different proposals for a second airport near Sydney since the first of the government's fire-side chats in 1962 and that Badgery's Creek wasn't even considered until at least the mid-80's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sydney_Airport
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