Post Covid staff bonuses
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Post Covid staff bonuses
It has been announced that 100,000 Emirates Airline staff will receive 24 weeks bonus pay this year as a way of keeping them at the airline.
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers
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29th May 2023, 02:01
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It has been announced that 100,000 Emirates Airline staff will receive 24 weeks bonus pay this year as a way of keeping them at the airline.
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers
AJ will never give a 6 month bonus, because they only thing he’s ever been invested in since starting at Qantas is lining his own pockets.
Step 1 - cancel hundreds of new aircraft orders to maximise short term profit
Step 2 - shut down and cost the airline hundreds of millions as an industrial bullying tactic
Step 3 - forget about your core business of flying people safely from A to B and instead use your airline to push political agendas
Step 4 - surround yourself with people who tell you you’re doing a great job, remove anyone who doesn’t
Step 5 - sack ground handlers illegally
Step 6 - attempt to replace your Australian pilots with cheap foreign labor, turn your once safe airline into a series of outsourced and cheap contractors
Step 7 - hire a new CEO internally who won’t come in and criticise what you’ve done
Step 8 - walk out the door just before a monumental CAPEX with horrifically bad fleet age metrics
Step 9 - also walk out the door at the height of the share price with a record profit (which is none of your doing, but simply post-COVID demand related) so all your personal bonuses when you leave are maximised
Step 10 - pocket circa $180m after running the country’s biggest, safest and strongest airline and its staff into the ground to be left a shell of what it once was
So tell me, Qanda, is this the sort of person you think is going to give 6 month staff bonuses even if those same staff went unpaid for two years?
Remember how he came out and trumpeted he was forgoing his bonuses and pay during COVID. Look more carefully at what he actually did, essentially just deferred them all to make it LOOK like he wasn’t raping and pillaging while his staff lost their houses and families.
The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. As an outsider looking in, I don’t understand why you’d even imagine for a second, that this little excuse for a human would be giving out a six month bonus to anyone other than himself.
One day, the piss-weak board members will front an enquiry over why they let this happen.
Meanwhile, maybe stop smoking whatever you’re on.
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Australian airlines are still smoking their belief that pilots will want to live and work here. Rather than trying to keep staff happy by conceding that it’s the coal face that makes the company function, and sharing the spoils of OUR hard work accordingly, they run with the established dogma. We won’t see much more than a half hearted thanks in the form of some, soon-to-be devaluing shares.
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From: Kichin
To look for something positive in this, at least the bonuses being paid OS will make all of those ex-pats supposedly bursting to come back to the “lucky country” and fly for our national carrier(s), think twice.
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There is life away from the sheltered workshop if you feel the need.
I dont have any expat friends looking at QF. I think the influx of fellas made redundant after covid is over.
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Don’t you mean “national carrier(s) underpaid subsidiaries”.
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From: Dark Side of the Moon
Sadly when we do get a bonus it is 6% of salary multiplied by a customer satisfaction score for which we have NO control over, so our bonus gets reduced due to !!!! management of OTP factors that we don’t have any sway over,
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If you asked for a multi month bonus they would then say the business is now unviable and in terminal decline because of these demands. That is the same card they play each time a new agreement is up for negotiation and the braindead unions here fall for it.
Any executive who suggests to give the good front line staff bonuses or shares without any conditions attached will be sacked. Just like recent agreements, vote it down and you can forget about those bonus or share payments.
What would Sharpie say if his good pilots went to him for small slice of these big flashy unaudited profits he is reporting to the market each month? Just imagine all the conditions he would attach to a 5 dollar bonus.
Any executive who suggests to give the good front line staff bonuses or shares without any conditions attached will be sacked. Just like recent agreements, vote it down and you can forget about those bonus or share payments.
What would Sharpie say if his good pilots went to him for small slice of these big flashy unaudited profits he is reporting to the market each month? Just imagine all the conditions he would attach to a 5 dollar bonus.
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Last edited by gordonfvckingramsay; 28th May 2023 at 15:49.
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Exactly what’s happening at the rat. I’d guess fuel carriage has increased by 10-15 % and people are doing what the have to do to improve personal productivity at the expense of QF. Depending on what company you work for that could mean increasing Cost Index to go home earlier or finding a way to delay a flight to increase DTA or fall into a meal allowance bracket.
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From what I see people just go sick to adjust their rosters and not bother with bidding etc. I haven't seen anyone take 'more' fuel but there is no doubt people have lost all sense of loyalty from both sides. A Captain said to me last week 'they treat me like a low cost employee so I act like one'.
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It has been announced that 100,000 Emirates Airline staff will receive 24 weeks bonus pay this year as a way of keeping them at the airline.
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers
AJ will never give a 6 month bonus, because they only thing he’s ever been invested in since starting at Qantas is lining his own pockets.
Step 1 - cancel hundreds of new aircraft orders to maximise short term profit
Step 2 - shut down and cost the airline hundreds of millions as an industrial bullying tactic
Step 3 - forget about your core business of flying people safely from A to B and instead use your airline to push political agendas
Step 4 - surround yourself with people who tell you you’re doing a great job, remove anyone who doesn’t
Step 5 - sack ground handlers illegally
Step 6 - attempt to replace your Australian pilots with cheap foreign labor, turn your once safe airline into a series of outsourced and cheap contractors
Step 7 - hire a new CEO internally who won’t come in and criticise what you’ve done
Step 8 - walk out the door just before a monumental CAPEX with horrifically bad fleet age metrics
Step 9 - also walk out the door at the height of the share price with a record profit (which is none of your doing, but simply post-COVID demand related) so all your personal bonuses when you leave are maximised
Step 10 - pocket circa $180m after running the country’s biggest, safest and strongest airline and its staff into the ground to be left a shell of what it once was
So tell me, Qanda, is this the sort of person you think is going to give 6 month staff bonuses even if those same staff went unpaid for two years?
Remember how he came out and trumpeted he was forgoing his bonuses and pay during COVID. Look more carefully at what he actually did, essentially just deferred them all to make it LOOK like he wasn’t raping and pillaging while his staff lost their houses and families.
The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. As an outsider looking in, I don’t understand why you’d even imagine for a second, that this little excuse for a human would be giving out a six month bonus to anyone other than himself.
One day, the piss-weak board members will front an enquiry over why they let this happen.
Meanwhile, maybe stop smoking whatever you’re on.