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Separation issue involving Boeing 737, VH-VXH, and Airbus A320, VH-VGV, near Darwin

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Old 17th Jun 2023, 10:34
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Originally Posted by sunnySA
Seems like some good news, a reduction in the duration of the NOTAM, from August 182030 to June 141600.
Seems the NOTAM was amended - AIRAC date on 15/6, 14/6 1600 UTC.
B20/23
ATS SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS
AD CTL SER NOT AVBL. AERODROME FLIGHT INFORMATION AND SAR SERVICE
PROVIDED BY DARWIN INFORMATION ON 133.1MHZ.

PRIOR TO OPERATING ON THE MANOEUVRING AREA OPERATORS MUST CONTACT
DARWIN INFORMATION BY TEL ON 618 7929 4816 OR ON FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACCESS AUTHORITY TO THE AD AND ASSOCIATED TRA. SEPARATE YBBB NOTAM
REFERS

MANDATORY BROADCAST PROCEDURES DETAILED IN AIP ENR 1.1 SECTION 12
APPLY ON 133.1MHZ. DEP IFR ACFT CTC BN CEN 118.15MHZ WITH TAXI CALL.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.

PILOTS-IN-COMMAND AND AD OPERATORS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR
COLLISION AVOIDANCE ON THE AD.

AD WX INFO AVBL ON ATIS FREQ 128.25MHZ. AD FREQ RESPONSE UNIT (AFRU)
AVBL ON FREQ 133.1MHZ. FIRE AND RESCUE WILL MNT FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACFT REQUIRING EMERG SERVICES AND CAN BE CONTACTED BY
TEL ON 618 8920 4810.
FROM 06 141600 TO 09 132030
DAILY 1230/2030
End date now September, however I hear that a number of RAAF ATCs have resigned and will be starting with AsA...
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Old 9th Jul 2023, 10:58
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Investigation has been discontinued.
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Old 9th Jul 2023, 11:50
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I can’t find the bit in the report ‘The ATSB is becoming increasingly concerned around the use of CTAF and TRA procedures across large scale areas in Australian airspace, an urgent review is currently underway’

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Old 9th Jul 2023, 14:01
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
I can’t find the bit in the report ‘The ATSB is becoming increasingly concerned around the use of CTAF and TRA procedures across large scale areas in Australian airspace, an urgent review is currently underway’
Nowhere to be seen indeed. The "will continue to monitor for any related occurrences that may indicate a need to undertake a further safety investigation" part of the notice is akin to the twaddle you hear when you're on hold with a company's call centre.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 07:39
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Originally Posted by VHOED191006
Nowhere to be seen indeed. The "will continue to monitor for any related occurrences that may indicate a need to undertake a further safety investigation" part of the notice is akin to the twaddle you hear when you're on hold with a company's call centre.
Why would they? That separation looked fine by me. Just another day flying a jet in a ctaf? Surely safer than having Darwin ATC involved? Third world Oztralia yeah? Any clown flying with wifi who doesn't pay $60 / year for Flight Radar is mental.
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Old 10th Jul 2023, 10:39
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B20/23
ATS SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS
AD CTL SER NOT AVBL. AERODROME FLIGHT INFORMATION AND SAR SERVICE
PROVIDED BY DARWIN INFORMATION ON 133.1MHZ.

PRIOR TO OPERATING ON THE MANOEUVRING AREA OPERATORS MUST CONTACT
DARWIN INFORMATION BY TEL ON 618 7929 4816 OR ON FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACCESS AUTHORITY TO THE AD AND ASSOCIATED TRA. SEPARATE YBBB NOTAM
REFERS

MANDATORY BROADCAST PROCEDURES DETAILED IN AIP ENR 1.1 SECTION 12
APPLY ON 133.1MHZ. DEP IFR ACFT CTC BN CEN 118.15MHZ WITH TAXI CALL.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.

PILOTS-IN-COMMAND AND AD OPERATORS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR
COLLISION AVOIDANCE ON THE AD.

AD WX INFO AVBL ON ATIS FREQ 128.25MHZ. AD FREQ RESPONSE UNIT (AFRU)
AVBL ON FREQ 133.1MHZ. FIRE AND RESCUE WILL MNT FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACFT REQUIRING EMERG SERVICES AND CAN BE CONTACTED BY
TEL ON 618 8920 4810.
FROM 06 141600 TO 09 132030
DAILY 1230/2030
C948/23 REVIEW C879/23
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
IN CLASS C AIRSPACE INCLUDING CTR C. DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK
(DAH) SECTOR VOLUME NAMES AFFECTED ARE: 'DARWIN CONTROL ZONE' (C),
'DARWIN CTA C1', 'DARWIN CTA C2', 'DARWIN CTA C3', AND 'DARWIN CTA
C4' (NOT ABV A085).
ATS IN THIS AIRSPACE SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS.
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS C AIRSPACE. APPROACH AND AD CTL SER NOT
AVBL. FLIGHT INFORMATION AND SAR SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED FROM SFC TO
8500FT AMSL BY DARWIN INFORMATION ON 133.1MHZ. FOR OPERATIONS ABOVE
A085 CTC BN CEN 129.85MHZ.
PRIOR TO OPERATING ON THE MANOEUVRING AREA OR IN THE TEMPO RESTRICTED
AREA PILOTS/OPERATORS MUST CONTACT DARWIN INFORMATION BY TEL ON 618
7929 4816 OR ON FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR ACCESS AUTHORITY. AUTHORISATION TO
ENTER THIS TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE CLEARANCE TO
ENTER ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS. THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF
TWO RADIOS IS REQUIRED FOR ENTRY TO THE TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA.
MANDATORY BROADCAST PROCEDURES DETAILED IN AIP ENR 1.1 SECTION 12
APPLY WI TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ON 133.1MHZ. DEP IFR ACFT CTC BN CEN
118.15MHZ WITH TAXI CALL. TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED
ON AT ALL TIMES.
PILOTS-IN-COMMAND ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION
AVOIDANCE WITHIN THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE.
AD WX INFO AVBL ON ATIS FREQ 128.25MHZ. AD FREQ RESPONSE UNIT (AFRU)
AVBL ON FREQ 133.1MHZ. FIRE AND RESCUE WILL MNT FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACFT REQUIRING EMERG SERVICES AND CAN BE CONTACTED BY TEL ON 618 8920
4810.
APRX AREA: CTA WI 40NM RADIUS OF YPDN
SFC TO 8500FT AMSL
FROM 06 182215 TO 09 112030
DAILY 1230/2030
ATSB are saying it's 2024, not September 11 (or 13th).




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Old 6th Dec 2023, 11:59
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Darwin Airport, 5 months on and the cheese has more holes.

TIBA, Reduced runway length, ungrooved, weather
TAF AMD YPDN 061234Z 0612/0718
32005KT 9999 SCT020
FM061300 11005KT 9999 SCT020
FM070200 33012KT 9999 SCT025
FM071200 33005KT 9999 SCT020
TEMPO 0614/0617 VRB25G40KT 1000 THUNDERSTORMS WITH MODERATE RAIN
BKN010 SCT020CB
PROB30 TEMPO 0617/0618 VRB25G40KT 1000 THUNDERSTORMS WITH MODERATE
RAIN BKN010 SCT020CB
PROB30 TEMPO 0703/0709 VRB25G40KT 1000 THUNDERSTORMS WITH MODERATE
RAIN BKN010 SCT030CB
RMK
T 30 28 27 26 Q 1010 1009 1008 1010
TAF3
YPDN AD WRNG 3 VALID 061400/061700
AERODROME WARNING NUMBER 3 FOR DARWIN VALID 062330/070230 LOCAL
ISSUED 061236 (062206 LOCAL)
THUNDERSTORMS APPROACHING FROM THE EAST ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT THE
AERODROME WITHIN VALIDITY PERIOD.
METAR YPDN 061230Z 01006KT 9999 FEW020 BKN350 30/25 Q1010 RMK
RF00.0/000.0 DL-E
ATIS YPDN Z 061230
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT 8500FT AND BELOW
ATS NOT AVBL
MBZ PROC APPLY WITHIN TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ON FREQ 133.1
DARWIN INFORMATION AND AFRU AVBL ON FREQ 133.1
PREFERRED RWY 29 DTHR AS PER STAGE 1
INFO AVBL ON NOTAM B0029/23**
C802/23 REVIEW C765/23
THR RWY 29 DISPLACED 765M DUE WIP
RWY 11/29 OPR LEN REDUCED BY 705M EASTERN END
DISPLACED THR MARKED BY GREEN THR LGT EACH SIDE OF RWY HN AND
RWY THR IDENT LGT HJ, PILOT MNT
OBST 17FT AGL ON RWY 2889M FM START OF TORA RWY 11
DECLARED DISTANCE AND GRADIENT CHANGES
RWY TORA TODA ASDA LDA
11 2589(8494) 2649(8691)(2.0) 2589(8494) 2589(8494)
29 2649(8691) 2739(8987)(1.2) 2649(8691) 2589(8494)
SUPPLEMENTARY TKOF DISTANCES
RWY11- 2598(8524)(1.6) 2639(8658)(1.9)
LDA FOR LAND AND HOLD SHORT OPS (LAHSO) AMD DISTANCE WHEN RWY 29 THR
DISPLACED 765M - RWY 29 1922(6306)
GP INFRINGES APCH BY 11FT WHEN THR DISPLACED
RWY 29 TKOF TO COMMENCE AT RED LGT HN AND RED AND WHITE CONES HJ
RWY 29 PAPI NOT AVBL WHEN THR DISPLACED
RWY 29 TEMPO PAPI AVBL 3.0 DEG 61FT
RWY THR IDENT LGT AND TEMPO PAPI PILOT MNT
RWY 11 DIST TO RUN MARKERS NOT AVBL WHEN 29 THR DISPLACED
RWY 11 TWY B1, TWY B2, TWY E1, TWY E2, TWY C3 AND TWY C4 TKOF RUN
AVBL SIGNS NOT AVBL WHEN 29 THR DISPLACED
TWY A6 CLOSED
AVBL INST APCH PROCEDURES ARE LOC-T, VOR-T, NDB-T, RNP T, RNP Y, AND
RNP S
OTHER INST APCH PROCEDURES AVBL TO CIRCLING MINIMA ONLY
ADVISE DN APCH ON FIRST CTC OF APCH INTENTION
REFER METHOD OF WORKING PLAN YPDN 23/02 STAGE 1
FROM 12 060602 TO 12 130730
B43/23 REVIEW B42/23
ATS SUBJECT TO CONTINGENCY DUE TO OPR RESTRICTIONS
AD CTL SER NOT AVBL. AERODROME FLIGHT INFORMATION AND SAR SERVICE
PROVIDED BY DARWIN INFORMATION ON 133.1MHZ.

PRIOR TO OPERATING ON THE MANOEUVRING AREA OPERATORS MUST CONTACT
DARWIN INFORMATION BY TEL ON 618 7929 4816 OR ON FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACCESS AUTHORITY TO THE AD AND ASSOCIATED TRA. SEPARATE YBBB NOTAM
REFERS

MANDATORY BROADCAST PROCEDURES DETAILED IN AIP ENR 1.1 SECTION 12
APPLY ON 133.1MHZ. DEP IFR ACFT CTC BN CEN 118.15MHZ WITH TAXI CALL.
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES.

PILOTS-IN-COMMAND AND AD OPERATORS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR
COLLISION AVOIDANCE ON THE AD. ACFT SHOULD DISPLAY ALL EXTERNAL
LIGHTING TO ASSIST WITH VISUAL IDENTIFICATION

AD WX INFO AVBL ON ATIS FREQ 128.25MHZ. AD FREQ RESPONSE UNIT (AFRU)
AVBL ON FREQ 133.1MHZ. FIRE AND RESCUE WILL MNT FREQ 133.1MHZ FOR
ACFT REQUIRING EMERG SERVICES AND CAN BE CONTACTED BY
TEL ON 618 8920 4810.
FROM 12 061230 TO 12 062030 EST
C785/23
RWY 11/29 SFC NOT TO STD (UNGROOVED SECTION)
PSN 500M WEST OF RWY 29 THR DISPLACEMENT, APRX 1265M FM RWY 29 THR
FROM 12 010634 TO 12 130830 EST
** there is no NOTAM B0029/23.
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