QF refuelling at Melbourne from an A380????
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Regards scissor lifts, they are either diesel engine driving hydraulics or battery motor hydraulics, neither of which I would be happy to station under a refueling panel whilst connecting/dis hoses, manual steps, giraffe or passenger yes, hoses walked up or hoisted with ropes.
Regards scissor lifts, they are either diesel engine driving hydraulics or battery motor hydraulics, neither of which I would be happy to station under a refueling panel whilst connecting/dis hoses, manual steps, giraffe or passenger yes, hoses walked up or hoisted with ropes.
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Seams to me that there are at least a couple of posters whom have never been on the platform of a fueler or an Engineering scissor lift.
Fueler: platform at rear, remote from power source, has a remote dead man switching system, has step access at all raised heights, has fire extinguisher on board.
Scissor lift: drive system below platform, short step access only when retracted, emergency stop buttons, limited foot print stability.
There are no doubt more points, but I just wanted to share in brief my own experience and knowledge.
Fueler: platform at rear, remote from power source, has a remote dead man switching system, has step access at all raised heights, has fire extinguisher on board.
Scissor lift: drive system below platform, short step access only when retracted, emergency stop buttons, limited foot print stability.
There are no doubt more points, but I just wanted to share in brief my own experience and knowledge.
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Seams to me that there are at least a couple of posters whom have never been on the platform of a fueler or an Engineering scissor lift.
Fueler: platform at rear, remote from power source, has a remote dead man switching system, has step access at all raised heights, has fire extinguisher on board.
Scissor lift: drive system below platform, short step access only when retracted, emergency stop buttons, limited foot print stability.
There are no doubt more points, but I just wanted to share in brief my own experience and knowledge.
Fueler: platform at rear, remote from power source, has a remote dead man switching system, has step access at all raised heights, has fire extinguisher on board.
Scissor lift: drive system below platform, short step access only when retracted, emergency stop buttons, limited foot print stability.
There are no doubt more points, but I just wanted to share in brief my own experience and knowledge.
Some of your other points;
Drive train position - during a fuel spill, the liquid could go anywhere in the local area. Most MEWPs the motor (diesel or electric) is covered as well. Remember BA 777 in Denver? Fuel truck caught fire when hose ruptured. Re/Defueling is hazardous.
Deadmans handle - irrelevant during this operation. You use the aircraft pumps direct into the transfer hose via the wing refuel point, connected to the other aircraft. Fuel truck pumps/hoses etc not used.
Fire Extinguisher - can go and get a mobile one.
Footprint stability - operate IAW manufacturers instructions as usual.
Step access point when raised - irrelevant. No need to stay at the hose connection point during fuel transfer.
If anything MEWP platforms also have a greater working platform area so allowing easier movement. Also, trying to drag hoses up a mobile steps requires 2 hands, so you are not maintaining 3 points of contact. Lifting the hoses with a MEWP is viable and safer.
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Looks like the guys from Rivet are at it again, from 5pm tomorrow:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...25ca7af260719b
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...25ca7af260719b
During the last refuellers’ strike on March 8, Qantas positioned an A380 at Tullamarine for the purpose of providing fuel for aircraft, operating to and from the airport.
There were no significant disruptions or delays.
A Qantas spokesman indicated they were prepared to do that again, in order to maintain services for passengers.
He stressed that Qantas had no direct relationship with Rivet and its employees, who had requested a meeting with the airline to discuss their enterprise agreement.
Qantas declined on the basis the airline was not the refuellers’ employer or contractor.
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A statement from ExxonMobil said they were focused on ensuring any industrial action had minimal disruption to airlines and their passengers.
“We are working closely with our (airline) customers and we have put continuity plans in place to supply fuel to Melbourne Airport, as well as getting that fuel into planes,” the statement said.
“Given these proactive arrangements we do not expect any material impact to flights or passenger disruptions.”
There were no significant disruptions or delays.
A Qantas spokesman indicated they were prepared to do that again, in order to maintain services for passengers.
He stressed that Qantas had no direct relationship with Rivet and its employees, who had requested a meeting with the airline to discuss their enterprise agreement.
Qantas declined on the basis the airline was not the refuellers’ employer or contractor.
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A statement from ExxonMobil said they were focused on ensuring any industrial action had minimal disruption to airlines and their passengers.
“We are working closely with our (airline) customers and we have put continuity plans in place to supply fuel to Melbourne Airport, as well as getting that fuel into planes,” the statement said.
“Given these proactive arrangements we do not expect any material impact to flights or passenger disruptions.”
Qantas declined on the basis the airline was not the refuellers’ employer or contractor.
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Just sounds like a sensible business decision to me. I’m sure there’s going to be plenty of other airlines that won’t get their fuel, so I don’t think the few Qantas flights that will get fuel elsewhere won’t make much of a difference to the strike action.
"See that A380 tanker over there? We don't need youse guys anyway.. we can do it ourselves if we have to!"
