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It has begun…..

Network Aviation is now offering a $15k sign on bonus for type rated applicants…..

The pilot shortage is really starting to bite in Aus I feel.

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Bonuses of roughly this amount started in the US around '17-'18. I wonder if Aus will follow a similar trajectory wrt to increases in pay and QoL, move quicker than what the US did, or slower. I hope for everyone's sake it doesn't take the same 5 years to finally get what you're owed, given the sacrifices Aus pilots have been asked to make lately.
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Do they hire non Australian pilots?
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Pilot shortage or just a s***hole that nobody wants to work at?
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Originally Posted by mince
Network Aviation is now offering a $15k sign on bonus for type rates applicants…..

The pilot shortage is really starting to bite in Aus I feel.

The experienced pilot shortage has been here for a while and will progressively get worse . A sign on bonus will not help, it's purely a short-term band aid solution. The real issue is the gradual erosion of T&C's over many years . Once upon a time it was a great career to get into, now that's long gone, let's face it the industry isn't sexy anymore and isn't attracting the bright young Gen X, Y , Z 's .
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Lol. This is actually amusing.

Any pilot with half a brain (most pilots) will realise pretty quickly it’s actually a $7500 bonus ,once you take tax and super out. So pretty much equivalent to a mainline pilot fortnight’s take home pay……..

What garbage.

Qantas group management are truly living in a state of altered consciousness if they think this will change anything.

As mentioned above the only thing that will attract pilots is more money (a lot) and better conditions.
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*Applicants who hold F100 or A320 type rating on their Australian CASA Flight Crew Licence, are current on the aircraft type and are successful through the recruitment process are eligible for a $15,000 sign on bonus (with conditions). 50% of the sign on bonus will be paid upon check to line, with the remaining 50% to be paid on completion of 6 months service with Network Aviation.



Please note that non-type rated applicants are currently not eligible for the sign on bonus.
Hardly generous given they save upwards of $25,000 not having to type rate an applicant.

Oh and they make you wait 6 months for 50% of it. Hilarious.

Qantas group management are truly living in a state of altered consciousness if they think this will change anything.

As mentioned above the only thing that will attract pilots is more money (a lot) and better conditions.
​​​​​​​On a positive note, this is how it starts, they are testing the water and will up the offer later.
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A sign on bonus will only help when followed up with years of service bonuses. Keeping the pilots you have is just as important as recruiting new ones. Network are good at neither….

Or maybe just maybe they could increase base remuneration………
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Originally Posted by mince
Network Aviation is now offering a $15k sign on bonus for type rates applicants…..

The pilot shortage is really starting to bite in Aus I feel.
This isn’t new or even news. NAA was offering more than this prior to covid. Just history repeating…
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About time they add pilots to the skill shortage list.
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Your wish has been granted Ilyushin76…

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visa...ccupation-list
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Originally Posted by Ilyushin76
About time they add pilots to the skill shortage list.
No shortage of pilots just, a shortage of pilots willing to work for the meagre conditions offered by most Australian airlines and charter operators. The fact that we lost 700 pilots to the US last year just serves to reinforce the fact that there is no shortage……..
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Anyone with A320 time is looking at far better options than NAA. I think the main targets for this "bonus" are those with F100 time in WA at VARA, Alliance or Skippers, who may be tempted to jump across the tarmac for a quick 30 pieces of silver. But the VARA peeps are looking at future of being upgraded to the 737 so not much interest to jump across the tarmac from them. F100 rated peeps at Alliance or Skippers who may jump at a bit of extra cash, but after tax it's only about an extra $8-10,000 as a one off payment, so even those already rated on the F100 at those operators have much better options elsewhere.

If this proposal attracts more than an extra 3 people to NAA I'd be surprised.

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A sign on bonus will only help when followed up with years of service bonuses. Keeping the pilots you have is just as important as recruiting new ones. Network are good at neither….

Or maybe just maybe they could increase base remuneration………
An NAA Captain is paid much less than a Mainline F/O. Why would any sane person wish to stay for that kind of dough when there are better options in existence?

To truly keep them NAA would have to increase pay substantially (about an extra $100k pa) which would kill their low pay business model.

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Pfft, Jetstar NZ was offering $20k sign on bonuses 14 years ago, not sure it is a sign of a pilot shortage as much as attracting people onto a **** contract.
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Pilot shortage or just a s***hole that nobody wants to work at?
Every place with demand needs workers - whether its a **** hole or not !! Its just want they're willing to pay ????

Worked in plenty of **** holes albeit I got paid very well and purchased a house with it after 1 year
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and purchased a house with it after 1 year
You must have lived in a ****hole as well.
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Well purchased a do-err-upper in an average suburb, but it led to capital growth and better & bigger things.
Had to start somewhere & the deposit was substantial
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The LCC model adopted by the mother ship is biting them nicely now. $15k before tax needs to be the tip of the iceberg if they are serious about keeping anything in the air.
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