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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 06:45
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The TVL refueller has been told that Bonza will be using Nauru Airlines for the wet lease.
Looks like F8 and AB will be wet leasing to each other
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Canadian wetlease agreement

  • Flair Airlines and Bonza have formed a wet lease partnership, allowing them to optimize their resources and maximize operations during peak travel seasons.
  • Flair operates a fleet of 20 Boeing 737 aircraft, with the 737 MAX 8 as their backbone, and has experienced high on-time performance and completion rates this summer.
  • Bonza, a young airline in Australia, has rapidly expanded and will be wet leasing two of Flair's aircraft to support the opening of its new base at the Gold Coast Airport, adding 100 jobs to the local economy.
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Haha, rapidly expanded.
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 23:32
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Thumbs up

From no frames to 4 and now 6!!!
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From no frames to 4 and now 6!!!
The "success" story ...



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777 Partners have in the order of 60 738s on order over the next few years
Combined allocation to both F8 and AB
Some were surrendered both because of the tail end of Covid with F8 and the delay with getting AB going
There are some apparently still due to 777 this year and regular deliveries scheduled over the next few years
Looking forward, Bonza will only have issues getting frames if F8 needs them, contrary to what the doomsayers indicate, they are going gangbusters with average loads over 89% and plenty of expansion
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According to the Boeing website it’s only 31, not 60.
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Deliveries mean more than orders, which is when you have to stump up the cash, and 777 have had 5, going real well, not.
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According to the Boeing website it’s only 31, not 60.
68 through AIP
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Old 9th Aug 2023, 09:36
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What looks like will sink this joint is an absolute lack of Pilots. Mildura passengers being put on the bus.

That problem can be solved by perhaps throwing some cash at the crew. Consistently advertising for more crew on low ball wages will only make the problem worse.


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Old 10th Aug 2023, 05:09
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Put on a bus to where? Mildura is in no man’s land…

what do the loads on other routes look like then?
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend
Put on a bus to where? Mildura is in no man’s land…

what do the loads on other routes look like then?
Offered the 6 hour bus trip to MEL (probably on the V-Line coach).

Pretty dire....
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I can't wait to see what happens when Flair want some extra frames in their northern summer, along with crews. Do they take them from Bonza who then cancel a load of routes? All goes to issues with their long term sustainability if people don't have the confidence the flight will operate, regardless of how cheap it might be.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 05:50
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Originally Posted by topend3
I can't wait to see what happens when Flair want some extra frames in their northern summer, along with crews. Do they take them from Bonza who then cancel a load of routes? All goes to issues with their long term sustainability if people don't have the confidence the flight will operate, regardless of how cheap it might be.
Bonza has less than 1% market share, that would be a very bizarre decision should that eventuate. I am not sure if many would go spend half the year in Canada. Wouldn't you just resign and go get a proper paying gig with an American outfit if you are going to do that?
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 07:57
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I doubt that AB will send anything to F8
Likely just spin to explain the Flair birds over here for their OOL launch
I can see some Flair birds Dec-Feb to handle peak holiday loads ongoing
Perhaps they should sell seats on the positioning flights, 3-4 stops Canada to Oz could have a retro feel to it
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 22:34
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I can see some Flair birds Dec-Feb to handle peak holiday loads ongoing
I thought Air Nauru was their get out of jail card?
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 03:26
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Gold Coast to Launceston, starting in November.
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Geez that brings back memories. Who remembers the old weekend DC9 run?
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What’s a DC9?
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Old 24th Aug 2023, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Stationair8
Gold Coast to Launceston, starting in November.
That would have to be close to as worse timing as possible.

Route won’t survive 6 months
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