717 NJS - What's Going On?
Gne, I don’t get your frustration. Is it because you have an aversion to subsidiaries or is it because they changed airframes on you?
I hate the way subsidiaries are used (as described above), but I don’t hate subsidiaries themselves. I’ll also never be a QF apologist but they do have the right to change airframes and or BU’s.
I hate the way subsidiaries are used (as described above), but I don’t hate subsidiaries themselves. I’ll also never be a QF apologist but they do have the right to change airframes and or BU’s.
Southern Australian Airlines was merged into Easterns and ceased to exist. Sunstate and Easterns are still operating pretty much independently under the QLink brand, each has it's own EBA and bases and are played against each other at every EBA negotiation. Apart from Sunstate and Easterns which operate very similarly the other subsidiaries under the QLink brand have almost nothing in common apart from a management using each against the other to hold down conditions.
Management don’t ‘hold down conditions’, pilots accept them.
Don’t blame management if you are too stupid or weak to say no to a crap deal.
Management don’t ‘hold down conditions’, pilots accept them.
Don’t blame management if you are too stupid or weak to say no to a crap deal.
Don’t blame management if you are too stupid or weak to say no to a crap deal.
Management don’t ‘hold down conditions’, pilots accept them.
Don’t blame management if you are too stupid or weak to say no to a crap deal.
Don’t blame management if you are too stupid or weak to say no to a crap deal.
Divide and conquer.
JQ then NJS, NAA, now Alliance is undercutting all of them. Hell, even freight is out sourced to EFA because it’s cheaper than letting mainline do it.
Apparently there’s a general agreement amongst QF Group Pilots (and I believe Alliance Crew) that if any Pilot agrees to operate an A220 in Australia/NZ at a rate less that what NJS Pilots have agreed to they will be named on a List (Scab List?).
The idea being that this stops QF from playing silly games.
The idea being that this stops QF from playing silly games.
Apparently there’s a general agreement amongst QF Group Pilots (and I believe Alliance Crew) that if any Pilot agrees to operate an A220 in Australia/NZ at a rate less that what NJS Pilots have agreed to they will be named on a List (Scab List?).
The idea being that this stops QF from playing silly games.
The idea being that this stops QF from playing silly games.
Dear BAz,
National Jet Systems was fortunate to receive a large volume of high standard applications for limited opportunities and the process of narrowing down this group of professional and high calibre individuals was challenging.
The National Jet Systems Leadership team have carefully reviewed all applications against the profile required, and the decision was made to not to progress your application on this occasion.
We thank you again for your interest and would like to encourage you to continue to visit our careers page for future opportunities.
Sincerely,
Kind regards,
Talent Acquisition – Pilots & Flight Operations
Talent Acquisition, People Services
Qantas Group Airlines
National Jet Systems was fortunate to receive a large volume of high standard applications for limited opportunities and the process of narrowing down this group of professional and high calibre individuals was challenging.
The National Jet Systems Leadership team have carefully reviewed all applications against the profile required, and the decision was made to not to progress your application on this occasion.
We thank you again for your interest and would like to encourage you to continue to visit our careers page for future opportunities.
Sincerely,
Kind regards,
Talent Acquisition – Pilots & Flight Operations
Talent Acquisition, People Services
Qantas Group Airlines
BAz
There’s some panic coming out of this outfit recently. Rumours persist of medium and long term crewing issues forecast, to go with the short term issues.
Rumours that some mainline SH FOs have been quietly sounded out about taking A220 DECs on the NJS contract. That is if they want to go backwards in pay and conditions for a LHS gig.
Other rumours of a flow scheme from QLink to NJS (not into the rest of the group).
Today a Town Hall revealed that NJS advertised for foreign DE training captains with 500hrs on A220. They advertised for 28 days on 6 platforms and received 28 applicants, 4 of which met the requirements, none of which have Australian work rights.
So NJS’ plan B is for 10 foreign pilots across both ranks with A220 time to be recruited on visas with a pathway to permanent residency. If that doesn’t work, then they will try to get contract pilots in from overseas.
Is Australia so drained of any management talent that the only options are for visas, cadets (after some time in QLink) or for mainline to rescue them even though that helps to undercut mainline flying?
Surely QF managers aren’t seriously wondering why no one flying A220s in the USA wants to come back to Aus for a 35-50% pay cut?
Please someone tell me I’ve been misinformed!
Rumours that some mainline SH FOs have been quietly sounded out about taking A220 DECs on the NJS contract. That is if they want to go backwards in pay and conditions for a LHS gig.
Other rumours of a flow scheme from QLink to NJS (not into the rest of the group).
Today a Town Hall revealed that NJS advertised for foreign DE training captains with 500hrs on A220. They advertised for 28 days on 6 platforms and received 28 applicants, 4 of which met the requirements, none of which have Australian work rights.
So NJS’ plan B is for 10 foreign pilots across both ranks with A220 time to be recruited on visas with a pathway to permanent residency. If that doesn’t work, then they will try to get contract pilots in from overseas.
Is Australia so drained of any management talent that the only options are for visas, cadets (after some time in QLink) or for mainline to rescue them even though that helps to undercut mainline flying?
Surely QF managers aren’t seriously wondering why no one flying A220s in the USA wants to come back to Aus for a 35-50% pay cut?
Please someone tell me I’ve been misinformed!
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There’s some panic coming out of this outfit recently. Rumours persist of medium and long term crewing issues forecast, to go with the short term issues.
Rumours that some mainline SH FOs have been quietly sounded out about taking A220 DECs on the NJS contract. That is if they want to go backwards in pay and conditions for a LHS gig.
Other rumours of a flow scheme from QLink to NJS (not into the rest of the group).
Today a Town Hall revealed that NJS advertised for foreign DE training captains with 500hrs on A220. They advertised for 28 days on 6 platforms and received 28 applicants, 4 of which met the requirements, none of which have Australian work rights.
So NJS’ plan B is for 10 foreign pilots across both ranks with A220 time to be recruited on visas with a pathway to permanent residency. If that doesn’t work, then they will try to get contract pilots in from overseas.
Is Australia so drained of any management talent that the only options are for visas, cadets (after some time in QLink) or for mainline to rescue them even though that helps to undercut mainline flying?
Surely QF managers aren’t seriously wondering why no one flying A220s in the USA wants to come back to Aus for a 35-50% pay cut?
Please someone tell me I’ve been misinformed!
Rumours that some mainline SH FOs have been quietly sounded out about taking A220 DECs on the NJS contract. That is if they want to go backwards in pay and conditions for a LHS gig.
Other rumours of a flow scheme from QLink to NJS (not into the rest of the group).
Today a Town Hall revealed that NJS advertised for foreign DE training captains with 500hrs on A220. They advertised for 28 days on 6 platforms and received 28 applicants, 4 of which met the requirements, none of which have Australian work rights.
So NJS’ plan B is for 10 foreign pilots across both ranks with A220 time to be recruited on visas with a pathway to permanent residency. If that doesn’t work, then they will try to get contract pilots in from overseas.
Is Australia so drained of any management talent that the only options are for visas, cadets (after some time in QLink) or for mainline to rescue them even though that helps to undercut mainline flying?
Surely QF managers aren’t seriously wondering why no one flying A220s in the USA wants to come back to Aus for a 35-50% pay cut?
Please someone tell me I’ve been misinformed!
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The fact of it is NJS made their bed, took a huge steaming dump in it and are now standing there wondering why they don’t want to sleep in it. The actual price for pilots is going up fast and they don’t want to pay.
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NJS advertised for foreign DE training captains with 500hrs on A220. They advertised for 28 days on 6 platforms and received 28 applicants, 4 of which met the requirements, none of which have Australian work rights.
So NJS’ plan B is for 10 foreign pilots across both ranks with A220 time to be recruited on visas with a pathway to permanent residency. If that doesn’t work, then they will try to get contract pilots in from overseas.
So NJS’ plan B is for 10 foreign pilots across both ranks with A220 time to be recruited on visas with a pathway to permanent residency. If that doesn’t work, then they will try to get contract pilots in from overseas.
Wow… all of this, rather than just pay people competitive remuneration and retention bonuses in the first place? This is the management geniuses ‘shaking the tree’ I suppose.
One can only imagine what the crewing forecast for the subsidiaries with even worse conditions and cultures is like.
I’ll see your 60% and raise you 200%+.
American Airlines narrow body captains are staring down the barrel at salaries rising to $470,000 USD ($710k AUD) within a few years, then add on the 401k and the profit sharing and there is no way in hell Australia will be attracting guys from Merca to come here.
American Airlines narrow body captains are staring down the barrel at salaries rising to $470,000 USD ($710k AUD) within a few years, then add on the 401k and the profit sharing and there is no way in hell Australia will be attracting guys from Merca to come here.
I’ll see your 60% and raise you 200%+.
American Airlines narrow body captains are staring down the barrel at salaries rising to $470,000 USD ($710k AUD) within a few years, then add on the 401k and the profit sharing and there is no way in hell Australia will be attracting guys from Merca to come here.
American Airlines narrow body captains are staring down the barrel at salaries rising to $470,000 USD ($710k AUD) within a few years, then add on the 401k and the profit sharing and there is no way in hell Australia will be attracting guys from Merca to come here.