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Old 14th Nov 2021, 04:24
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Qantas cadetship opportunities...!

https://www.flyfta.com/pilot-training/application-form/

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 04:33
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Ohh look, Petra is back. Still looking for that easy as pie job Petra?

You really didnít do a lot of research into this industry before you started flight training did you?
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 04:37
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Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995 View Post
https://www.flyfta.com/pilot-training/application-form/

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
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What are you planning to do? Pay for your CPL all over again? This has to be a wind up. And there is no guarantee of a job with Qantas once you have completed the course anyway.
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The answers are on the website you quoted, so there is no need for another trolling mission!
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 06:16
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Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995 View Post
https://www.flyfta.com/pilot-training/application-form/

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
Petra
At the moment they're only taking applicants with a maximum of a PPL or similar experience. If you have a CPL you're ineligible for entry at the current time. An advanced program where you start with a CPL and gain a Instrument and Multi Engine ratings and ATPL theory is an option in the future as the website states but no plans to start this kind of program at the moment.
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 06:23
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Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995 View Post

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
Petra
QG not QC, so itís just Qantas Group Academy intake nothing to do with Qantas CadetshipÖ
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 09:49
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Ohh look, Petra is back. Still looking for that easy as pie job Petra?

You really didnít do a lot of research into this industry before you started flight training did you?
I really did but I didn't see a pandemic coming
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 09:49
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What are you planning to do? Pay for your CPL all over again? This has to be a wind up. And there is no guarantee of a job with Qantas once you have completed the course anyway.
I don't want to do that but I emailed them and they said I could get "recognition of prior learning" for some
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 09:51
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The answers are on the website you quoted, so there is no need for another trolling mission!
Huh? I just asked if anyone has got a job after the course?
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 10:02
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You also saidÖÖ Thanks for your insights!

I gave it!

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Old 14th Nov 2021, 12:46
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This has to be a troll .. no one could be so stupid.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 08:31
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Employment post course? I donít think thatís a guarantee?
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 12:14
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Employment post course? I donít think thatís a guarantee?
In these programs itís never been a guarantee. Mostly due to the fact a cadetship/academy style program is in essence a very long job interview. If the employer picks up attributes of a trainee they deem a negative then itís easier to reject them without going through a significant HR process if they were a formal employee.

However I think it would be in their best interests to offer employment to graduates as a first priority. In this well connected world if it turned out the Academy was just a branded flight school with a similar chance of employment as other schools then itís interest would drop off quickly.

As a general rule through history cadets were always the first priority for recruitment, ie it wasnít as if cadets graduated to a satisfactory standard then were told other groups would be employed over them.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 20:45
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In these programs itís never been a guarantee. Mostly due to the fact a cadetship/academy style program is in essence a very long job interview. If the employer picks up attributes of a trainee they deem a negative then itís easier to reject them without going through a significant HR process if they were a formal employee.

However I think it would be in their best interests to offer employment to graduates as a first priority. In this well connected world if it turned out the Academy was just a branded flight school with a similar chance of employment as other schools then itís interest would drop off quickly.

As a general rule through history cadets were always the first priority for recruitment, ie it wasnít as if cadets graduated to a satisfactory standard then were told other groups would be employed over them.
Thanks. I read the original post as if that person was under the assumption of employment straight after graduation which wasnít my understanding and the website is clear that thereís no guarantee.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 06:38
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However I think it would be in their best interests to offer employment to graduates as a first priority. In this well connected world if it turned out the Academy was just a branded flight school with a similar chance of employment as other schools then it’s interest would drop off quickly.
However at what point are you actually "in". QF cadets a while back were going through the whole process, training, completing industry placement, being scrutinised at every turn and then getting knocked by HR at the last post to be left out in the cold after spending alot of time, cash, jumping through endless hoops. To say that left a bitter taste for some is a understatement in the least.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 08:18
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody View Post
However at what point are you actually "in". QF cadets a while back were going through the whole process, training, completing industry placement, being scrutinised at every turn and then getting knocked by HR at the last post to be left out in the cold after spending alot of time, cash, jumping through endless hoops. To say that left a bitter taste for some is a understatement in the least.
What happened to that group around that time was pretty poor. For the most part though, since the program has been running in various guises since the early 60ís most whoíve completed the course to a satisfactory standard have been offered employment when the company was recruiting.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 08:27
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What happened to that group around that time was pretty poor. For the most part though, since the program has been running in various guises since the early 60’s most who’ve completed the course to a satisfactory standard have been offered employment when the company was recruiting.
Those courses were run by mainline with selection onto the course being conducted by Qantas Airways utilising essentially the same selection processes that mainline was using for their direct entry crew (except for the sim obviously).

Selection for the ‘academy’ (note, it’s NOT a Cadet course) is done external to Qantas by FTA. Whilst there is some advance standing given into the QLink recruitment process (note, QLink recruitment, not mainline recruitment) one still needs to jump through the hoops for QLink to be offered employment.

How many academy and QFPP course have graduated? It would be interesting to know how many of the previous graduates have been offered positions thus far.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 08:45
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who would bother. every time there is a problem in the world, qantas will drop your arse so fast. Better off doing a trade or anything else. aviation is for suckers
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 09:55
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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you already hold a CPL?
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 14:49
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HI, If I may ask. Is there any instance that Australia has accepted foreign pilots? Do they provide sponsorship? Thanks for the answer
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