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petra.oskertrich1995 14th Nov 2021 03:24

Qantas cadetship opportunities...!
 
https://www.flyfta.com/pilot-training/application-form/

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
Petra

morno 14th Nov 2021 03:33

Ohh look, Petra is back. Still looking for that easy as pie job Petra?

You really didn’t do a lot of research into this industry before you started flight training did you?

SOPS 14th Nov 2021 03:37


Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995 (Post 11141859)
https://www.flyfta.com/pilot-training/application-form/

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
Petra

What are you planning to do? Pay for your CPL all over again? This has to be a wind up. And there is no guarantee of a job with Qantas once you have completed the course anyway.

Capt Fathom 14th Nov 2021 03:46

The answers are on the website you quoted, so there is no need for another trolling mission!

dr dre 14th Nov 2021 05:16


Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995 (Post 11141859)
https://www.flyfta.com/pilot-training/application-form/

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
Petra

At the moment they're only taking applicants with a maximum of a PPL or similar experience. If you have a CPL you're ineligible for entry at the current time. An advanced program where you start with a CPL and gain a Instrument and Multi Engine ratings and ATPL theory is an option in the future as the website states but no plans to start this kind of program at the moment.

tangwang 14th Nov 2021 05:23


Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995 (Post 11141859)

I just noticed that FTA is taking in cadetships QC17, QC18, QC19 for employment with Qantas after graduation. What does everyone think about this? I have already done all of my training and struggling for a long time to break into the industry... this might be my chance. Has anyone got a job with Qantas after this?
Thanks for your insights!
Petra

QG not QC, so it’s just Qantas Group Academy intake nothing to do with Qantas Cadetship…

petra.oskertrich1995 14th Nov 2021 08:49


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11141861)
Ohh look, Petra is back. Still looking for that easy as pie job Petra?

You really didn’t do a lot of research into this industry before you started flight training did you?

I really did but I didn't see a pandemic coming

petra.oskertrich1995 14th Nov 2021 08:49


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11141862)
What are you planning to do? Pay for your CPL all over again? This has to be a wind up. And there is no guarantee of a job with Qantas once you have completed the course anyway.

I don't want to do that but I emailed them and they said I could get "recognition of prior learning" for some

petra.oskertrich1995 14th Nov 2021 08:51


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11141863)
The answers are on the website you quoted, so there is no need for another trolling mission!

Huh? I just asked if anyone has got a job after the course?

Capt Fathom 14th Nov 2021 09:02

You also said…… Thanks for your insights!

I gave it!


SOPS 14th Nov 2021 11:46

This has to be a troll .. no one could be so stupid.

dr dre 16th Nov 2021 11:14


Originally Posted by holly32 (Post 11142832)
Employment post course? I don’t think that’s a guarantee?

In these programs it’s never been a guarantee. Mostly due to the fact a cadetship/academy style program is in essence a very long job interview. If the employer picks up attributes of a trainee they deem a negative then it’s easier to reject them without going through a significant HR process if they were a formal employee.

However I think it would be in their best interests to offer employment to graduates as a first priority. In this well connected world if it turned out the Academy was just a branded flight school with a similar chance of employment as other schools then it’s interest would drop off quickly.

As a general rule through history cadets were always the first priority for recruitment, ie it wasn’t as if cadets graduated to a satisfactory standard then were told other groups would be employed over them.

neville_nobody 17th Nov 2021 05:38


However I think it would be in their best interests to offer employment to graduates as a first priority. In this well connected world if it turned out the Academy was just a branded flight school with a similar chance of employment as other schools then it’s interest would drop off quickly.
However at what point are you actually "in". QF cadets a while back were going through the whole process, training, completing industry placement, being scrutinised at every turn and then getting knocked by HR at the last post to be left out in the cold after spending alot of time, cash, jumping through endless hoops. To say that left a bitter taste for some is a understatement in the least.

dr dre 17th Nov 2021 07:18


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11143346)
However at what point are you actually "in". QF cadets a while back were going through the whole process, training, completing industry placement, being scrutinised at every turn and then getting knocked by HR at the last post to be left out in the cold after spending alot of time, cash, jumping through endless hoops. To say that left a bitter taste for some is a understatement in the least.

What happened to that group around that time was pretty poor. For the most part though, since the program has been running in various guises since the early 60’s most who’ve completed the course to a satisfactory standard have been offered employment when the company was recruiting.

Keg 17th Nov 2021 07:27


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11143380)
What happened to that group around that time was pretty poor. For the most part though, since the program has been running in various guises since the early 60’s most who’ve completed the course to a satisfactory standard have been offered employment when the company was recruiting.

Those courses were run by mainline with selection onto the course being conducted by Qantas Airways utilising essentially the same selection processes that mainline was using for their direct entry crew (except for the sim obviously).

Selection for the ‘academy’ (note, it’s NOT a Cadet course) is done external to Qantas by FTA. Whilst there is some advance standing given into the QLink recruitment process (note, QLink recruitment, not mainline recruitment) one still needs to jump through the hoops for QLink to be offered employment.

How many academy and QFPP course have graduated? It would be interesting to know how many of the previous graduates have been offered positions thus far.

mikk_13 17th Nov 2021 07:45

who would bother. every time there is a problem in the world, qantas will drop your arse so fast. Better off doing a trade or anything else. aviation is for suckers

172heavy 17th Nov 2021 08:55

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you already hold a CPL?

ninoongleo 17th Nov 2021 13:49

HI, If I may ask. Is there any instance that Australia has accepted foreign pilots? Do they provide sponsorship? Thanks for the answer

unobtanium 18th Nov 2021 22:21


Originally Posted by Keg (Post 11143385)

How many academy and QFPP course have graduated? It would be interesting to know how many of the previous graduates have been offered positions thus far.

Many are working as bag chuckers so there somewhat working for qantas?

neville_nobody 18th Nov 2021 23:56


Selection for the ‘academy’ (note, it’s NOT a Cadet course) is done external to Qantas by FTA. Whilst there is some advance standing given into the QLink recruitment process (note, QLink recruitment, not mainline recruitment) one still needs to jump through the hoops for QLink to be offered employment.

How many academy and QFPP course have graduated? It would be interesting to know how many of the previous graduates have been offered positions thus far.
Which then begs the question why would you bother? You might has well get cheaper flight training elsewhere and get some experience and apply to QLink (or Rex) under your own steam. Personally I still believe you are still better off playing employers off against each other rather than being locked into one your whole career.


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