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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 11:10
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Originally Posted by SevenTwentySeven
I love how the employer is responsible for compliance.

What are they suggesting? GPS tracking ankle bracelets???

Maybe I shouldn't laugh. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it!
Ask Victoria if they’re laughing - over reach is becoming the daily reality.
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Old 2nd Nov 2021, 13:58
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Updated as per NSW Health’s website 8 hours ago. It really is a circus running this state these days, health officials and premier on two totally different pages.


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Old 3rd Nov 2021, 10:55
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Thankfully it’s the Premier that is now driving the outcomes with NSW Health cutting their cloth to match. For so long over the last 20 months it has been the other way around.
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 00:53
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The end for Qantas crew required to quarantine at Howard Springs correctional centre for national resilience is thankfully over. We can now isolate in a local hotel in Darwin between flights whilst keeping the disease to ourselves.
No longer being berated and warned if you’re off your dedicated balcony.
No longer having to wear a mask if outside.
No longer being woken for a temperature check at 0730 every morning.
No longer PCR tested on day 1, 7 and 12th days.
No longer being incarcerated for doing your job.
We’ve wasted weeks of our lives in the gulag. There was nothing pleasant about the experience except I didn’t have to do the washing up. The joint should be shutdown ASAP. It’s a national embarrassment. It’s a mining camp, nothing more, but I do feel for the staff that work there. Not a great place to work either. Hot and depressing. Nothing good going for the dump at all.
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 02:34
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Yep, won’t miss it!

“One small step for crew… one giant leap for crew engagement”. Bring on the beers by the pool!
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 03:00
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Has the NTG dropped the quarantine requirements for international arrivals?

Thought it was proposed, however not until January.
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 04:09
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Has the NTG dropped the quarantine requirements for international arrivals?

Thought it was proposed, however not until January.
Still hotel quarantine, in a crew dedicated facility. Not free to move about the community just yet.
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 08:35
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Thought piss ups by the pool was a little pre-mature.

Good outcome and a move in the right direction. At least crews can get a decent feed and get a few beers, albeit having everything delivered I guess. We do a similar thing in Cairns coming from PNG every week, it’s still a pain however better than going to a mining camp with no beers and fed tucker box food for 14 days.

I wish I didn’t have to get a tree stuck up my nose every few days though….
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Old 4th Nov 2021, 09:28
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Originally Posted by Troo believer
The end for Qantas crew required to quarantine at Howard Springs correctional centre for national resilience is thankfully over. We can now isolate in a local hotel in Darwin between flights whilst keeping the disease to ourselves.
No longer being berated and warned if you’re off your dedicated balcony.
No longer having to wear a mask if outside.
No longer being woken for a temperature check at 0730 every morning.
No longer PCR tested on day 1, 7 and 12th days.
No longer being incarcerated for doing your job.
We’ve wasted weeks of our lives in the gulag. There was nothing pleasant about the experience except I didn’t have to do the washing up. The joint should be shutdown ASAP. It’s a national embarrassment. It’s a mining camp, nothing more, but I do feel for the staff that work there. Not a great place to work either. Hot and depressing. Nothing good going for the dump at all.
Not arguing the toss there, but Howard Springs was a shed load better than most 2 week hotel Qs I did.
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 02:34
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It appears that NSW Health are mandating (again) 14 days quarantine for flight crew returning from overseas - but the punters down the back only have to do 72 hours?? Craziness...
Anyone able to confirm or deny that they really mean that - or do they mean "foreign based flight crew"???

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...uidelines.aspx

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Old 30th Nov 2021, 03:24
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Are you looking for consistency, logic and rational medical advice?

You know, like mandating wearing a mask when the sole occupant of a car.
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 03:37
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Are you looking for consistency, logic and rational medical advice?
Hoping for it!
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 04:24
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The 14 days applies to NSW crew. Tasman freight flying exemption revoked as well.

The pax was originally ‘72 hours pending further health advice’. I’m not sure whether it’s still just 72 hours for them or whether they’ve been extended.

Victorian crew I think are 72 hours. QLD and WA crew are still 14 days.
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 08:23
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Result from National Cabinet Meeting appears to be holding firm that "travellers" arriving in NSW, VIC and ACT (the only states/territories accepting international arrivals "without quarantine") need to quarantine for 72 hours.
NSW Health holding firm that Flight Crew need to do 14 days - it's bullsh!t.
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 08:45
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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight
NSW Health holding firm that Flight Crew need to do 14 days - it's bullsh!t.
Amended to 72 hours for flight crew.

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Old 30th Nov 2021, 09:04
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Originally Posted by Sparrows.
Amended to 72 hours for flight crew.
Still too much.
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 09:17
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Originally Posted by Koizi
Still too much.
It is - what, pray tell, does 72 hours achieve? What's meant to happen at the 71 hour mark? Why don't they just say - "Isolate until you receive a negative test result"? At least that would make a modicum of sense?
Who comes up with this made up rubbish?
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Old 30th Nov 2021, 09:37
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By the way, sincere thanks for your efforts, Keg! I know many colleagues who greatly appreciate your work to get this overturned.
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Old 1st Dec 2021, 00:27
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Thanks but I didn’t do much except rant a couple of times on twitter and write to the local member.

There is a rumour going around that Joyce told the Premier that we wouldn’t be able to crew international flights for a few weeks from 9 December if the 14 days iso remained. Given that Qantas was quite positive earlier yesterday that things would change for the better it wouldn’t surprise me if the NSW Premier had given QF some sort of assurance that the iso would be reduced.

AIPA was making representations also.

It’s possible the first press release at 1730 last night was just an over looked typo. IE crew iso was supposed to be changed but it was missed. Doesn’t excuse it going into ‘print’ and I agree that even 72 hours is excessive given our precautions that we are still taking.

It’ll be interesting to watch the crewing situation for patterns that have return flights scheduled for return after about 0800 on 22 December through to Boxing Day.

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Old 1st Dec 2021, 02:24
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Originally Posted by Keg
It’ll be interesting to watch the crewing situation for patterns that have return flights scheduled for return after about 0800 on 22 December through to Boxing Day.
Surely an opt out provision would have to be made from Dec 6 onwards if ISO doesn’t drop completely?
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