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Qantas to lay out roadmap for restart of international flights

Old 26th Aug 2021, 03:25
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Originally Posted by Down and Welded View Post
Anyone know which two a/c are to be retired?
A, B, C, E, F and L are the old config. I doubt L will go because itís the newest one.

Hopefully A will be one of them.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 03:57
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A had $140 mill spent on it. Should be a good structure now. B has gone to Germany for refit. C is in Abu Dhabi (why?). D is under cover in LAX. E to L at Victorville. What are we to guess at?
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 04:08
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Originally Posted by Down and Welded View Post
A had $140 mill spent on it. Should be a good structure now. B has gone to Germany for refit. C is in Abu Dhabi (why?). D is under cover in LAX. E to L at Victorville. What are we to guess at?
B is getting a gear change in Dresden, not a reconfig.

No idea which of the others will stay.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 04:15
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Interesting use of words using DRW as an alternative or in conjunction with Perth. Maybe Qantas is concerned about WA keeping its borders closed longer than the rest of Australia. Darwin baseÖ sign me up!!
Only problem is NT is as bad as WA with the Covid Zero idealism!!!

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Old 26th Aug 2021, 06:14
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Originally Posted by ANCDU View Post
Interesting use of words using DRW as an alternative or in conjunction with Perth. Maybe Qantas is concerned about WA keeping its borders closed longer than the rest of Australia. Darwin baseÖ sign me up!!
They'd want some amount of flying PER-LHR, there's enough UK migrants in Perth to sustain it, and Perth looks like it'll be growing a bit over the next few years so I doubt it'll be abandoned completely, there are good reasons to use it as a hub.

I'd say their use of "investigating" is more a tactic to put some pressure on the State government regarding borders, but also to seek assistance in their dispute with the Airport over fees and terminal use. In addition to the negotiations over the new expanded single use terminal that'll come online within the next decade.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 06:19
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Really quite delusional & sad

UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day

& Infection rates of 30,000 & 150,000 per day right now , USA vaccination rate in low 50s %

If that is Covid safe , I would not like to see covid dangerous

QF employees are being led around by nose with completely false hope for the 3rd time now

Surely oh surely you should have expected more than this

The rest of the country don't have to change their minds because Gladys & PM & QF state " this is how you do it all - we have the answer & you have to listen"

With the numbers above the other States won't touch this with a barge pole, we have been locking out other states for 5 cases
Are we really going to say "Gee wow because you are an Englishman/American we will let you into our country with open arms even though you have 50,000 daily cases"

Gladys , ScoMo etc told us it would all be fine

Golly gosh last nights 7:30 or something still said there were 38K Australians wanting to return home perhaps they should be the
priority before people jet off to feed the pigeons at Trafalgar Square

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Old 26th Aug 2021, 06:48
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Originally Posted by Telfer86 View Post
Really quite delusional & sad

UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day

& Infection rates of 30,000 & 150,000 per day right now , USA vaccination rate in low 50s %

If that is Covid safe , I would not like to see covid dangerous

QF employees are being led around by nose with completely false hope for the 3rd time now

Surely oh surely you should have expected more than this

The rest of the country don't have to change their minds because Gladys & PM & QF state " this is how you do it all - we have the answer & you have to listen"

With the numbers above the other States won't touch this with a barge pole
Man you must live a sad life.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 06:57
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Telfer I know something thatís delusional and sad and thatís your continual BS. Travel will be permitted for fully vaccinated people only so it doesnít matter what countries QF fly to as long as the demand warrants it. Rapid antigen tests at the airport on arrival back into Oz will no doubt also be a requirement.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 07:13
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USA vaccination rate in low 50s %

Yes low 50s at the moment.
You would expect by December, the rate to be at least 62% and perhaps towards 70%. (The rate set in the Doherty report)
About 62% have already had at least their 1st dose and about 10% are just waiting for their 2nd dose.

Uk is low 60's but also should be easily be 70s by then, as about 10% are also waiting for their 2nd dose now.

BTW the low 50s vaccination rate is for the whole population. The doherty report is based only for those over 16 years old, so a total vaccination rate of low 50s in the USA might actually be 60% for people over 16 years old. USA should get 70% (aged over 16) by December.


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Old 26th Aug 2021, 07:19
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Originally Posted by Telfer86 View Post
UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day
Well, Iíd be more concerned if they were fallingÖ
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 07:43
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Gee a Wally or two amongst this lot
Or maybe just disappointed
The QF leaders are paid good coin, & this plan is Baby talk, just schoolboy stuff

Glads , SM & AJ - the A team, I would have more faith in the three stooges

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Old 26th Aug 2021, 08:17
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Originally Posted by Maggie Island View Post
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...ional-flights/

A332s to LAX and SFO is an interesting move
It's far from the least comfortable fitout going, even in economy, but over 13 hours you definitely appreciate the higher humidity the 787/A350 generation has to offer.

Possibly this must be the longest route Qantas have put the A330 on?
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 08:45
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Originally Posted by chuboy View Post
Possibly this must be the longest route Qantas have put the A330 on?
It was used AKL-LAX about 10 years ago. Popular with the pax and high loadings
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 08:46
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Telfer is actually right just emotionally invested, we in WA and SA are falling over ourselves to follow NSW lead "NOT" you really are dreaming if you think that we will be open this year. Whilst I admire the optimism, you're not doing yourself any favours by winding yourself up in anticipation. It really is gut wrenching soul crushing when it doesn't happen.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 09:46
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I like to think that I'm always optimistic, and I sincerely, truly, honestly hope I'm proven wrong - but international travel will not be happening in December 2021 as per Qantas' announcement today.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 21:26
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Originally Posted by Chris2303 View Post
It was used AKL-LAX about 10 years ago. Popular with the pax and high loadings
Prior to that it was a 747 with the aircraft continuing on to JFK with full load of high-yield, highly profitable freight. When some genius decided to use Atlas to carry the freight, the LAX-JFK sector became a loss maker and the 330 replaced the 747 on that leg. Problem was, they had to get the 330 to LAX so put it on from AKL. That only lasted for a short time as the Qantas 330 offering was eclipsed by the ANZ 777 option for a number of pax who'd previously preferred the Qantas 747.
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Old 26th Aug 2021, 22:59
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Well this is all a pipe dream really. He has the state premiers to deal with and more importantly the virus itself. The uk uses the traffic light system. Joyce has mentioned Phuket as a possible destination. Well the uk has just moved thailand to the red list countries meaning if you are there now you need to do two weeks quarantine on return. Just like that. Would YOU book a holiday overseas knowing that at then drop of a hat it could go red. And people need to book months in advance to work around work holiday schedules. And to secure flights and hotels. I imagine that we are going to have to use a similar system if not formally then behind the scenes. Thailand also forces anyone arriving into 14 day quarantine.

I hope it all works out but it isn’t going to be easy when the enemy is completely out of your control.
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 00:06
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Originally Posted by Foxxster View Post
Well this is all a pipe dream really. He has the state premiers to deal with and more importantly the virus itself. The uk uses the traffic light system. Joyce has mentioned Phuket as a possible destination. Well the uk has just moved thailand to the red list countries meaning if you are there now you need to do two weeks quarantine on return. Just like that. Would YOU book a holiday overseas knowing that at then drop of a hat it could go red. And people need to book months in advance to work around work holiday schedules. And to secure flights and hotels. I imagine that we are going to have to use a similar system if not formally then behind the scenes. Thailand also forces anyone arriving into 14 day quarantine.

I hope it all works out but it isnít going to be easy when the enemy is completely out of your control.
None of that will happen, it's all political drum beating, Darwin isn't even capable of being a hub. i see the UK summer season didn't go all that well, probably for all the reasons you mention.
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 00:34
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I think the naysayers are missing the point. It doesnít matter if the flights resume exactly as planned.

Itís about restarting the airline in PREPARATION for when they do. Itís not just a switch flicked to on. It takes time and resources, and the roadmap is just that - an acknowledgement that in order to be ready by date X, you need to start getting organised now. Itís a signal to the market that money will be spent in readiness. There is a potential massive upside for QF if they are ready when the gates open.

It will see training across the board and more importantly, pay in the pockets of the guys that have been stood down for way too long.

Good news fellas - allow yourself to feel hopeful.

Ignore the Xeptus and Telfers of the world - those types of people love bathing in misery, especially if it belongs to others.
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Old 27th Aug 2021, 01:06
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist View Post
I think the naysayers are missing the point. It doesn’t matter if the flights resume exactly as planned.

It’s about restarting the airline in PREPARATION for when they do. It’s not just a switch flicked to on. It takes time and resources, and the roadmap is just that - an acknowledgement that in order to be ready by date X, you need to start getting organised now. It’s a signal to the market that money will be spent in readiness. There is a potential massive upside for QF if they are ready when the gates open.

It will see training across the board and more importantly, pay in the pockets of the guys that have been stood down for way too long.

Good news fellas - allow yourself to feel hopeful.

Ignore the Xeptus and Telfers of the world - those types of people love bathing in misery, especially if it belongs to others.
It does matter to many of those who have good secondary jobs they will be forced to give up. QF will call all A330 and 787 crew back in preparation for international opening up in December. The is a very high prospect the government could announce in November to delay opening up international for another 6mths. QF will then stand most back down. Too bad if you gave up a decent secondary job!
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