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Old 25th Mar 2021, 18:21
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Originally Posted by krismiler View Post
This is becoming the new normal in Europe and has been in the USA for sometime as far as short haul flights are concerned. Eat before you leave, buy onboard or bring a sandwich. Even if a meal is provided, with the current COVID precautions it will likely be not up to expectations anyway.
Exactly! As with COVID precautions, even First Class is getting a simple box of snacks. I flew First Class in early January - 'meal' was a choice of three different boxed snacks (with things like cheese, hummus, nuts, and crackers of some sort - not horrible, but well short of the hot meals pre-pandemic. Drinks were bottled water, beer, or wine - all served in sealed containers. In coach, they got bottled water...

By the time it hits cruise and the seatbelt signs are switched off people have been onboard for around 30 minutes average. But they rush for the onboard shitter. A lineup of defecators who barely lasted 30 mins in their seat. WTF?
30 minutes from the time they got in line to board to pushback, 10 minutes taxiing around and waiting for TO clearness, 20-30 minutes to climb to cruise and turn off the seat belt sign - so easily an hour since they had bathroom access. Wait until you're in you 60's or 70's with prostate issues. Unless I intentionally stay dehydrated, going more than 60 minutes without taking a leak can be a major challenge
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 01:00
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Good : pay $200 for a flight and get a meal and seat allocation.
Bad : Pay $150 for the same flight with a different airline plus $10 for seat allocation and $20 for food.

I know who I am flying with and will spend the extra $20 in the pub.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 01:56
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Won't be long until Ms Jayne has the CC doing the onboard cleaning between sectors with the StickVax and Wipes. If a buck can be saved by Bain they will do it.

$5 for a 4 finger KitKat is taking the piss.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 02:54
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Originally Posted by highflyer40 View Post
You obviously donít fly business much. They can get their breakfast for free in the business class lounge. Always going to have time as you are going to have at least 45-60 minutes before your flight.
And having travelled many years for business for quite a few different companies, they rarely if ever spring for business class seats. It is always economy and the cheapest, most inflexible fare.

The very large company I presently work for stipulates that you must fly economy, for the cheapest possible fare at all times, irrespective of airline or how ungodly that hour might be. Only the C suite get to travel business or better.

If you try and book a flight and the system detects you could have flown cheaper, your 2-up manager gets an alert and you have to explain yourself to them and it always gets rejected and you have to rebook.

This is the same for most if not all of my colleagues and friends who work for other large corporates in Australia, so I am not alone.

So yes, being able to eat onboard when it is the only down time you have all day has its attractions, regardless of how mediocre that food might be..



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Old 26th Mar 2021, 07:14
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Originally Posted by Agent_86 View Post
Won't be long until Ms Jayne has the CC doing the onboard cleaning between sectors with the StickVax and Wipes. If a buck can be saved by Bain they will do it.

$5 for a 4 finger KitKat is taking the piss.
VA Cabin crew have ALWAYS cleaned the aircraft between sectors, no chance of Bain ever forking out for cleaners. Why would they when they can force the crew to do it. Iím told cabin crew already work up to 12 hours without breaks, and the new EBA will see them working up to 14 hours, for less money, less days off, and still no guarantee of getting a break while at work.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 07:22
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Originally Posted by Robot Jones View Post
VA Cabin crew have ALWAYS cleaned the aircraft between sectors
Depends on the duration of the aircraft downtime between sectors as to whether the CC will give the a/c a cursory clean. Bain haven't completely dumped the cleaning contracts with Swissport yet.

I was more referring to the CC being responsible for all the cleaning.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 12:28
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Originally Posted by highflyer40 View Post
You obviously don’t fly business much. They can get their breakfast for free in the business class lounge. Always going to have time as you are going to have at least 45-60 minutes before your flight.
You obviously don’t fly business much, They can check in with their mobile phone in the hire-car en-route to the airport, move their flight forward or backward 15 mins depending on the arrival time at the airport which Google Maps will give them, accurate to the minute based on real-time traffic flows, get through security and walk through L1 door 5 minutes before it closes. They haven’t had 5 minutes for a doughnut all day. They want a decent feed, and a glass of nice red. And leave the bottle. It’s been a big day.

Oh, sorry. This is a Virgin thread.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 14:13
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Originally Posted by Derfred View Post
You obviously donít fly business much, They can check in with their mobile phone in the hire-car en-route to the airport, move their flight forward or backward 15 mins depending on the arrival time at the airport which Google Maps will give them, accurate to the minute based on real-time traffic flows, get through security and walk through L1 door 5 minutes before it closes. They havenít had 5 minutes for a doughnut all day. They want a decent feed, and a glass of nice red. And leave the bottle. Itís been a big day.

Oh, sorry. This is a Virgin thread.
You had me until you said leave the bottle.
That sure as 💩 doesnít happen in any airline in Oz. RSA and all.... Good to dream though. Also if you canít fit a Krispy Creme in your day you ainít living. Especially considering you would literally walk past one on your way to your Buisness Class seat 🤷‍♂️
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 23:00
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Originally Posted by Flyer517 View Post
And having travelled many years for business for quite a few different companies, they rarely if ever spring for business class seats. It is always economy and the cheapest, most inflexible fare.

The very large company I presently work for stipulates that you must fly economy, for the cheapest possible fare at all times, irrespective of airline or how ungodly that hour might be. Only the C suite get to travel business or better.

If you try and book a flight and the system detects you could have flown cheaper, your 2-up manager gets an alert and you have to explain yourself to them and it always gets rejected and you have to rebook.

This is the same for most if not all of my colleagues and friends who work for other large corporates in Australia, so I am not alone.

So yes, being able to eat onboard when it is the only down time you have all day has its attractions, regardless of how mediocre that food might be..
Your ruining this forum where pilots gets to proclaim they are the most hard done by underpaid employees in the world and management are the evil ones who only target them to be screwed over!

Please dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 07:50
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https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ass-meals-menu


“science and algorithms” 😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 08:16
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Originally Posted by Robot Jones View Post
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ass-meals-menu


ďscience and algorithmsĒ 😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪
did you laugh for 25 minutes solid again?
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 08:55
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Originally Posted by Fliegenmong View Post
And I remember First & Business class early morning flights OOL - SYD, early 90's I would say....the second after the seat belt signs were off, the white linen was put down, full hot breakfast, bottomless coffee, until descent, then the linen was taken away try tables upright and into Sydney....fabulous indeed!

I am so pleased to have known that 'other' time...CX serving brandy after the meal service in Y class.....things were so much better until...'Our customer research has revealed what you want'....no it damn well has not!!

What rubbish! I first flew to Bali in 1982 and the return fare at the time was $1080. Adjusting for inflation, that would make a return Economy fare to DPS today as over $3700. Be grateful about how much cheaper flying has become. If you want fancy food, go to a proper good restaurant with all the money you have saved from cheaper airfares.
What do you mean What rubbish?, I experienced it, many many times!
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 08:56
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Originally Posted by chookcooker View Post
did you laugh for 25 minutes solid again?
Yes I did.

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Old 10th Apr 2021, 05:56
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I have a crazy idea. Make flying ‘ nice’ again.

Where people dress properly, a ticket costs more than a taxi fare to the airport, even in Y you have decent leg room.. and the whole experience is, well, .. nice.
+1 ........ if you want to turn up in boardshorts & singlets & thongs, take the bus!!
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Old 10th Apr 2021, 05:58
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Originally Posted by Fliegenmong View Post
+1 ........ if you want to turn up in boardshorts & singlets & thongs, take the bus!!
and a lot less pilots?
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Old 10th Apr 2021, 08:58
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Originally Posted by Fliegenmong View Post
+1 ........ if you want to turn up in boardshorts & singlets & thongs, take the bus!!
Ever tried paying for a whole family to fly? Iíll take the board short wearing bloke next to me over airfares that make it impossible to fly with your family. Ohh and I donít have to stay a Saturday night to get the cheapest fares.
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