Virgin to fly international, at least to NZ

[getaway]

Originally Posted by LH777

Maybe, but if you start in NZ early the aircraft can fly 4 sectors (2 trans-Tasman return) and get back to NZ around midnight

of course, but I was referring to most economic use of a single crew.

Does anyone know if for example, NZ ever had a single crew do 3 sectors (2 x TT & 1 domestic), ie. such as AKL/BNE/ZQN/AKL ? (or to reduce flying time, substitute SYD or MEL for BNE)

[MickG0105]

Originally Posted by getaway

... (or to reduce flying time, substitute SYD or MEL for BNE)

Say what? Melbourne is about 200 nm (~30 mins) further from Auckland than Brisbane; Sydney is marginally closer than Brisbane by flying times are line ball.

[getaway]

Originally Posted by MickG0105

Say what? Melbourne is about 200 nm (~30 mins) further from Auckland than Brisbane; Sydney is marginally closer than Brisbane by flying times are line ball.

ok but from memory BNE/ZQN is around 300 miles longer than SYD/ZQN

Anyone know if NZ ever did triangular route such as AKL/SYD/ZQN/AKL with 1 crew ?

[Slezy9]

Originally Posted by getaway

ok but from memory BNE/ZQN is around 300 miles longer than SYD/ZQN

Anyone know if NZ ever did triangular route such as AKL/SYD/ZQN/AKL with 1 crew ?

Unable to do it due to crew duty and roster limitations which prohibit no international into domestic.

[getaway]

Originally Posted by Slezy9

Unable to do it due to crew duty and roster limitations which prohibit no international into domestic.

is that an Australian or New Zealand rule ?

Surely NZ could go to govt & say need it for efficient use of crew.

[plainmaker]

No triangle routes

AIUI the ANZ domestic and trans-tasman A320's are configured differently, so it would be highly unusual for a 'over water' configured aircraft doing a domestic sector unless it was for engineering or fleet purposes.

[Slezy9]

Originally Posted by getaway

is that an Australian or New Zealand rule ?

Surely NZ could go to govt & say need it for efficient use of crew.

I don’t think you can do it in crew duty limits (11 hours)

[Lapon]

Originally Posted by getaway

of course, but I was referring to most economic use of a single crew.

Does anyone know if for example, NZ ever had a single crew do 3 sectors (2 x TT & 1 domestic), ie. such as AKL/BNE/ZQN/AKL ? (or to reduce flying time, substitute SYD or MEL for BNE)

Do you mean NZ crew or Air NZ crew? I thought Jetstar NZ did a triangle of sorts at somepoint in time?

[Sparrows.]

Originally Posted by Lapon

Do you mean NZ crew or Air NZ crew? I thought Jetstar NZ did a triangle of sorts at somepoint in time?

JQ did them for a long time. Originating in Auckland would then go to either Sydney or Melbourne, then Queenstown and back to Auckland. Or the opposite, ZQN first, then Tasman.

Would very often (more times than not), run late. And was already planned right to the limit of F&D. It was made particularly difficult for Aus crew when sent to Auckland to do this pattern. 5am sign on’s would be 3am (even 2am for the week or two a year when NZ have daylight savings and Aus doesn’t) for their body clocks. Often multiple days in a row. Wasn’t a particularly popular trip...

Never had Aussie flighties on board. Rumour was they couldn’t do the domestic leg due to NZ Responsibly Service of Alcohol rules. Not sure what the real reason was.

[Section28- BE]

Originally Posted by getaway

is that an Australian or New Zealand rule ?

Surely NZ could go to govt & say need it for efficient use of crew.

Should, 'Jayne' from Bain & Co- 'observe' your self-evidentiary 'Brilliance'- reckon, 'they' shall BE all over 'IT' in a heart-beat .....!!!!

Yourself and 'BNEA320' have never Operated 'Gear'- much !!!!, have 'you'.....?????

There IS, 'stuff'- going ON...!!!, Apparently.

rgds/be well
S28- BE

[getaway]

anyone heard if virgin will be going back to Fiji ?

If so, how often ? Daily from BNE, SYD, MEL or 2 or 3/week ?

[Beer Baron]

Will Virgin 2.0 be allowed to fly to international destinations other than NZ?

I understood that international traffic rights for Australian carriers (other than NZ) only applied to majority Australian owned carriers. VAI had a clever ownership structure set up when they went public that allowed them to use these rights despite VAH being majority foreign owned.

Will they be able to use this same structure now that the whole box and dice has been bought by a US company?

(Apologies if some of the details are off, can’t remember it all perfectly)

[Wingspar]

I think VA was bought by the Australian arm of Bain? Might be a separate entity.