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Old 25th Sep 2020, 12:45
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A masterclass in situation management

Finished early today, a nice afternoon here in God’s country at the beginnings of a long weekend. Thought I'd tune in to the Victorian Hotel Quarantine Inquiry to watch young Daniel get probed, then neatly skewered on a queens counsel shish-kebab.
Surely I thought, it was on the cards, could be good viewing. A safe bet that he'd be under immense pressure, lose his rag, blame everyone else, then have to fall on his sword in a fit of reluctant accountability.
After all, >700 people are deceased as a result of the decisions his administration has taken. And he is the captain-coach, it's his gig.
The buck stops here, as he’s particularly fond of saying.

Rather, I saw a masterclass in denial and manipulation of the facts, a genuine solid-gold performance in how to demonstrate authority and command, yet without accepting responsibility for what has occurred under his supervision.
Yes I agree your holiness, it's unacceptable that most of the people I appointed failed miserably, that's why I appointed you to try to find out what happened. I'm not here to pre-empt your findings your grace, my commentary on what has occurred is not relevant.

No matter what he was asked, he deftly mitigated the thrust of the inquiry, with an almost genuflecting but at the same time, authoritative remorse.
No wonder the punters keep backing him in.

Yes, I agree Mr. A, it isn't good enough, not by a long shot. What I witnessed today was a soft touch-up, in a state that has gone soft.
The closing stages (after all it was post five o'clock for goodness sake!!!), where his counsel begged her majesty leave for to him speak, in apology for the (others) sins, left me speechless.

The cheek of the man. And the culpability/impotency of the Victorian media.
The emperor, I’m afraid, has no clothes.



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Old 25th Sep 2020, 14:07
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Old 25th Sep 2020, 19:51
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Surveys (for what they’re worth) say upwards of 60% of Victorians approve of the Marxist fools handling of coronavirus so not much chance of anything happening there.



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Old 28th Sep 2020, 06:21
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Originally Posted by mattyj View Post
Surveys (for what they’re worth) say upwards of 60% of Victorians approve of the Marxist fools handling of coronavirus so not much chance of anything happening there.
Actually 67%, including almost half of LNP voters.

Oh no, they’re just “sheeple”, brainwashed by the “lame stream media” to support the “Marxist dictator”....

Or they’ve looked at the situation and support the government actions to get through this situation as quick as possible without having moronic anti mask/anti lockdown idiots disrupt it.

I think what we’re seeing is a classic example of the “silent majority”, as opposed to the “noisy minority”. Except whilst most of the time the political right claims they have the backing of the “silent majority” this time they’re evidently in the “noisy minority”.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 06:25
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Why no mention of the security companies failing their duties in Security, I mean it’s their Business right .
The private security companies have managed to avoid any punishment.
The first thing I would do is remove them from all Australian Airports.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 06:59
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Or they’ve looked at the situation and support the government actions to get through this situation as quick as possible without having moronic anti mask/anti lockdown idiots disrupt it..
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King...... or Stockholm syndrome! I can’t work out which one is most likely. Perhaps a bit of both.
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There has to be a document in the hands of the security companies, telling them to go and do the hotels stuff. They don't do it off their own bat, or just off a phone call. So, somebody's name has to be at the bottom of that email.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 08:09
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There's some commentary doing the rounds that the executive may be exposed to the WorkSafe industrial manslaughter legislation they implemented late least year.
Perhaps explaining the plethora of memory failures and claims of ignorance. Interesting to see how it plays out. The irony of it all.
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
There has to be a document in the hands of the security companies, telling them to go and do the hotels stuff. They don't do it off their own bat, or just off a phone call. So, somebody's name has to be at the bottom of that email.
Someone had to sign off the procurement spend. There will be documents and names up a tree. From the bottom to the top.
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...Actually 67%, including almost half of LNP voters.
I think that once again you’re being a bit cavalier with the facts there doc. What the article you linked ACTUALLY said was

“....a sizeable minority of 43% of L-NP supporters also approve of his handling of the job.”
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I think that once again you’re being a bit cavalier with the facts there doc. What the article you linked ACTUALLY said was

“....a sizeable minority of 43% of L-NP supporters also approve of his handling of the job.”
Yeah 43%. Almost 50%. Which is almost half. The way the hate is being expressed for Dan A from RW circles I would expect at least 90% disapproval from LNP supporters but if he's still gaining 43% approval from LNP supporters then I think it's fair to say he has "almost half" of the LNP voters approving of his handling of the situation.
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Yeah 43%. Almost 50%. Which is almost half. The way the hate is being expressed for Dan A from RW circles I would expect at least 90% disapproval from LNP supporters but if he's still gaining 43% approval from LNP supporters then I think it's fair to say he has "almost half" of the LNP voters approving of his handling of the situation.
Craft a question to manufacture a response that "everyone loves Chairman Dan" - and one wonders why so many people view polls and such as crap.

ANYONE leading Victoria would have had to implement a similar regime due the severity of the situation, bugger all other options really.

Ask people if they think the actions are appropriate - reckon you'd get 95% saying (grudgingly and unhappily) yes.
Ask people what they personally think of Chairman Dan - now that'd be interesting.

Maybe you and ChariDan should retire to PRC and have a few beers whilst inspecting the tits of the local ladies, from a previous thread a major consideration as you judge a countries ethos and ethics.
Not saying a bad starting point - but lacking depth perhaps.

Also a good vantage point to see PRC making Taiwan as happy as they've made Hong Kong to be part of the PRC "Family". Lucky Taiwan.
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Originally Posted by Rabbitwear View Post
Why no mention of the security companies failing their duties in Security, I mean it’s their Business right .
The private security companies have managed to avoid any punishment.
The first thing I would do is remove them from all Australian Airports.
I have constantly been thinking the same thing.

But...

Private security companies are not answerable to the People of Victoria. Only the Government is. The only thing at stake for them is their reputation, and maybe WHS breaches.

At the end of the day, they were employed by someone in Government to do a job. With 48 hrs notice.

Did they have suitably trained staff just sitting around on standby to do the job? Of course not. So they had to rapidly employ or sub-contract unsuitable staff to do it.

As a result, they failed. Should the “someone” in Government have known that? Yes, they should. Would they have been likely to know that? No, they wouldn’t. Why not? Because we have a governmental system in place whereby politicians are given portfolios over industries they know nothing about. That’s the system. That’s exactly why Turnbull fckd up the NBN when he was Communications Minister. He even admitted that he didn’t even know how to turn on a computer. But he was put in charge of the project.

That doesn’t seem to be the focus of the inquiry, which is strange, because that was the real problem.

The other part of the problem was that once Scomo realised that his international passenger arrival policy of “please stay home for 14 days” wasn’t working, he just lumped it on the State governments to implement forced international arrival hotel quarantine, with 48 hrs notice. Which is NOT a State government responsibility. International quarantine is a Federal responsibility.

If I had been a State Premier, I would have said to Scomo “Sorry, but no. Not my job. You sort it out, I’m busy. Oh, and BTW, no more international arrivals into my State until you do. “

At least that would have given Scomo something to do while all the State Premiers are working their arses off while he snipes from the sidelines when he’s not watching footy or planning his next family holiday in Hawaii.
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Another rumour has it that the private security companies were selected to meet a "diversity in procurement" target within the particular department concerned.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 14:31
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At least that would have given Scomo something to do while all the State Premiers are working their arses off while he snipes from the sidelines when he’s not watching footy or planning his next family holiday in Hawaii.
YOU sum up precisely what is wrong with the sheep who are entitled to vote in this country.

Labor, Liberal, Greens or Fishing Party supporter, somehow we focus on the “popular” media spin that doesn’t matter and completely miss the bigger picture.

“Let’s focus on the PM who took a holiday with his family, almost a year ago, but we will just sweep aside the Victorian Premier who lies through his teeth on a daily basis who has led the biggest f&$k up in Australian history.”

If he happened to be a Liberal Premier I would also be scathing. This is a sham of the highest level and I don’t know why people like you insist on defending him. If the majority think like you the future of this nation is in complete jeopardy.




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Gotta remember that Australia is a 3rd world country with a 1st world facade! Corruption at all levels especially political & judicial runs rampant here! We just go from one cluster fcku to the next, Ops normal!
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You have to laugh at those who think that they have all the information and that everyone else are sheep. They are the people that are able to claim that there is corruption at all levels and that the rest of the population is taken in by media spin. Never do they provide specific evidence or acknowledge which side of the media spin cycle that they reside in. After all the media in this country are biased. The Guardian being biased to the left and the Murdoch press being biased to the right. If you really want to see a 3rd world country dressed up as a 1st world example look no further than the US. Of course to quote that most incorruptible of politicains "If you don't love it,LEAVE!!!"
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