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getaway 19th Oct 2020 01:59

Virgin to fly international, at least to NZ
 
have a source at virgin who says they will be flying to NZ (B738s only), when there are no restrictions whatsoever.

Actual start date is unknown. Tried to pin them down, but wouldn't come up with any date, due to covid restrictions in place right now, but did get out of them, certainly before winter.

UnderneathTheRadar 19th Oct 2020 02:17

One of the first 'bubble' flights on Saturday was reported as being VA

getaway 19th Oct 2020 02:54

up until now, think it was all speculation.

Tried to find out routes & frequency, but wasn't told much, except will be determined by demand, which presume means less frequencies than in 2019, but that that AKL & ZQN were definite.

Buster Hyman 19th Oct 2020 03:10

Has the Townsville Refueller relocated?

MickG0105 19th Oct 2020 03:22


Originally Posted by getaway (Post 10907133)
... wasn't told much, except will be determined by demand ...

So essentially what was reported in The Fin over two weeks ago.


A Virgin spokesman said that as international border restrictions eased and demand for air travel returned, the company would look to reintroduce short-haul international services which were suspended in response to COVID-19.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0201002-p561f6

Ragnor 19th Oct 2020 03:57

I hope VA have that pesky issue of an AOC they had pre covid of using Oz crew on Tasman etc. considering QF and JQ are doing it already with 2/5s of f all punters on it one way starting ex AKL never alone a return. Can’t wait to watch VA mess this up.

TBM-Legend 19th Oct 2020 04:20

Reactivate the Kiwi AOC and employ pilots on Kiwi pay scales.....

getaway 19th Oct 2020 04:39


Originally Posted by MickG0105 (Post 10907139)
So essentially what was reported in The Fin over two weeks ago.



https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0201002-p561f6

there's a big difference between will look at it (sometime in the future) & definitely next year, probably earlier rather than later.

Sounds like way less flights to ZQN than in 2019 (were up to 8/week BNE/ZQN, IIRC in winter 2019), as ZQN is mostly a leisure & price sensitive market & Queenstown is getting very VERY expensive, which will mean, with recession, less Australians will go there. AKL is different of course.

Will JQ fly BNE/ZQN ? Maybe. Although QF flies up to 3 times a week, different market. EG. JQ & QF did both fly SYD/HNL.

PoppaJo 19th Oct 2020 06:09

Getaway I’ve heard they are putting Tiger over on Kiwi domestic. Any hints or news on the start date for that one?

brokenagain 19th Oct 2020 06:16

Operating out of Bankstown apparently too.

PoppaJo 19th Oct 2020 06:17

Na I’ve got Auckland to DPS via Isa.

MickG0105 19th Oct 2020 06:58


Originally Posted by getaway (Post 10907155)
there's a big difference between will look at it (sometime in the future) & definitely next year, probably earlier rather than later.

Only in some people's minds.

Section28- BE 19th Oct 2020 09:41

Hmmmm-

'Tremendous' insight there, 'BNEA320'..............

YOU, ARE- all over 'it', could you perchance educate 'Jayne from Bain/ & Co'- as toward this 'fabulous' opportunity- that, 'they' seem to have Not factored 'into' the Business Case....????, Yet.

Took the opportunity- to speak, with both the LRE and ISA Refuellers' and Mate 'they' ARE ALL onboard for this Bali Gig...... when, you get it 'UP'- Good to GO!!!!!

rgds all
S28- BE

Logan31 20th Oct 2020 01:14


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10907151)
Reactivate the Kiwi AOC and employ pilots on Kiwi pay scales.....

That isnt a bad business plan at all.

Reactivate the Kiwi AOC and employ pilots on Kiwi pay scales.....

Might not be a bad idea something to think about for Bain.


Anti Skid On 20th Oct 2020 05:27


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 10907178)
Getaway I’ve heard they are putting Tiger over on Kiwi domestic. Any hints or news on the start date for that one?

Yep, they're going to use the Beech 1900's that were previously used by Eagle......

LH777 20th Oct 2020 06:35

Unless you're doing the odd NZQN for tourists you really need to start the Tasman flight early in the AM NZ time. This means either NZ based crew or overnights for Aussie based crew

getaway 21st Oct 2020 03:19


Originally Posted by LH777 (Post 10907876)
Unless you're doing the odd NZQN for tourists you really need to start the Tasman flight early in the AM NZ time. This means either NZ based crew or overnights for Aussie based crew

Think you may have this the wrong way around, eg. almost all QF, JQ & VA flights from BNE, OOL, SYD & MEL to ZQN depart in am & turn around & go straight back to where they started. Not sure what NZ does ? 3 sectors maybe (triangle if originate in New Zealand ?

Is eg. AKL/BNE/ZQN/AKL possible with same crew ?

LH777 21st Oct 2020 05:27


Originally Posted by getaway (Post 10908567)
Think you may have this the wrong way around, eg. almost all QF, JQ & VA flights from BNE, OOL, SYD & MEL to ZQN depart in am & turn around & go straight back to where they started. Not sure what NZ does ? 3 sectors maybe (triangle if originate in New Zealand ?

Is eg. AKL/BNE/ZQN/AKL possible with same crew ?

Maybe, but if you start in NZ early the aircraft can fly 4 sectors (2 trans-Tasman return) and get back to NZ around midnight

whisperjet146 21st Oct 2020 08:01


Originally Posted by LH777 (Post 10908616)
Maybe, but if you start in NZ early the aircraft can fly 4 sectors (2 trans-Tasman return) and get back to NZ around midnight

spot on, exactly how it went pre covid.

On Guard 21st Oct 2020 10:31

Those a/c leaving for Zqn have already done 1 sector nz-aus, hence the benefits of nz originating.


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