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Old 12th Jul 2020, 08:13
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I get a flu shot every year and since I have been getting it (5 years) I haven't had the flu
I don't get a flu shot every year and I haven't had the flu for the last 5 years.
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 08:15
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Originally Posted by Chris2303 View Post
I get a flu shot every year and since I have been getting it (5 years) I haven't had the flu
I bet you donít get attacked by tigers either.
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 08:22
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I bet you don’t get attacked by tigers either.
If you hold a banana in your ear you won't get attacked by tigers.
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 08:32
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Originally Posted by Chris2303 View Post
I get a flu shot every year and since I have been getting it (5 years) I haven't had the flu
I haven't had the flu for the last 30 years without a jab. If I do get any symptom of a flu virus, I deliver a knock out blow by nuking
the virus with a server overdose of garlic, onion, ginger. Next day I'm fine. Just the way my doctor told me.
Unfortunately my doctor is no longer with me. He passed away in 370BC. Best doctor in the world. Dr Hippocrates lived a very
healthy life for 90 years. Not bad for back then. He said to me "may food be your medicine, may medicine be your food.
You only die of disease if you invent it. Your body is innate, it adapts."
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 12:31
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Originally Posted by Boe787 View Post
No medical travel insurance....no sane person will travel os,
Saw a report of a woman in New York....3 weeks icu, 470,000 usd hospital bill
Hospital bills are often grossly inflated in the USA. If you don't have insurance you can pay cash and get over 50%+ discounts.

There are so many exceptions to closed borders. Dual Citizens, Permanent Residents, Essential Travel.

At JFK tonight, we (AF) are operating 2 passenger flights to CDG, Borders closed both sides and while I can't disclose LF there are many people traveling. The stories of why they are traveling is somewhat heartbreaking so I would disagree with you that sane people are not traveling. By September we will have 3x daily JFK to Paris. We fly pax to Europe, ME, Africa, and China sometimes with help of Chinese partners. Many people have been stuck for months in a foreign country. Very few flights options.
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 13:03
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Originally Posted by Adambrau View Post
Hospital bills are often grossly inflated in the USA. If you don't have insurance you can pay cash and get over 50%+ discounts.

There are so many exceptions to closed borders. Dual Citizens, Permanent Residents, Essential Travel.

At JFK tonight, we (AF) are operating 2 passenger flights to CDG, Borders closed both sides and while I can't disclose LF there are many people traveling. The stories of why they are traveling is somewhat heartbreaking so I would disagree with you that sane people are not traveling. By September we will have 3x daily JFK to Paris. We fly pax to Europe, ME, Africa, and China sometimes with help of Chinese partners. Many people have been stuck for months in a foreign country. Very few flights options.

50 percent discount on $460000 US. For cash. Sounds like a bargain!!!

Get a grip.. most people donít need to, donít want to, are to scared to travel.
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Deltasierra010 View Post
Your big problem mate is that you have no immunity within the population, in the U.K. large numbers have been exposed mostly without symptoms. Don’t be optimistic of avoiding an epidemic.
Studies have shown only those who get a severe dose of the virus develop antibodies, so those asymptomatic people in the UK have no immunity, and those who do develop antibodies only seem to have them for approx 3 months after infection, so they can get it again after that. With the long term damage this virus can do to your lungs, second time round things might be much worse. I know a lady in her 70s who got it in March, was in hospital for 6 weeks, recovered, was back home for 6 weeks, then either got it again or relapsed, back into a hospital for a few weeks, has since recovered again and is home. We really don’t understand this thing yet. New data is showing neurological damage in some people after COVID.

As for the flu jab, most years it is ball park 70% effective, ie there’s a 70% chance it will fight off any flu you pick up, so a COVID vaccine may not be the panacea everyone hopes for.

And yeah, don’t follow the English model, their deluded notions of exceptionalism have been badly exposed here, only Bolsonaro, Sweden and the Orange Turd have handled it worse.

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Old 12th Jul 2020, 21:53
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Originally Posted by ruprecht View Post
I bet you donít get attacked by tigers either.
Since there aren't any in NZ.....
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Old 12th Jul 2020, 23:21
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ICU in oz is the highest standard care in the world. Costs about $5K per day, that’s about 3.5K USD, that’s about 70K USD for three weeks. Half a mill is just gouging....typical. They should give an 85% discount for cash for ‘worlds best practice.’
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 02:56
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Originally Posted by Chris2303 View Post
Since there aren't any in NZ.....
They have not been seen in New Zealand since they started adding garlic to their roast hogget. It has had the same effect on vampires there too.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 07:41
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Since there aren't any in NZ.....
Proof that a banana in the ear works. Since I'm not allowed to carry bananas across state or country borders, a local supply must be sought. The time from the airport to a local supplier can be somewhat anxious.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 09:47
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Heared on the wireless today that they estimate that 67% of New Yorkers have COVID anti-bodies in their system. The virus rate is plumeting in NYC so they seem to have achieved herd immunity.

The virus is here now and will be with us until the end of the earth. It was probably here since the early days of the earth.

There is lots of nonsense spoken on here.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 10:18
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There is lots of nonsense spoken on here.
Yes, like virus elimination.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 10:27
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Originally Posted by Guptar View Post
Heared on the wireless today that they estimate that 67% of New Yorkers have COVID anti-bodies in their system. The virus rate is plumeting in NYC so they seem to have achieved herd immunity.

The virus is here now and will be with us until the end of the earth. It was probably here since the early days of the earth.

There is lots of nonsense spoken on here.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....odies.amp.html

I found a NYT article relating to this. Granted itís only actually neighborhoods not the whole city with that level of antibodies. Will be interesting if this communityís level of immunity prevents it suffering a second wave.
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Old 13th Jul 2020, 15:06
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Originally Posted by Bodie1 View Post
Yes, like virus elimination.
Exactly, focusing on elimination is useless as Victoria is finding out. Back into lockdown is just stupid, which state is next, how long will state border restrictions be in force? We need to learn to live with this virus. Protect the vulnerable and keep the economy going to fund it.

Why take a COVID patient to a major hospital in a regular ambulance? Itís just nuts! We need COVID dedicated and specifically trained staff, dedicated hospitals, transport and welfare facilities. Highly professional, highly trained health professionals in specialist facilities that only deal with COVID and nothing else. No agency nurses, cleaners, security etc.

A big reason the UK failed, was that it didnít protect the vulnerable. Suspected COVID patients were taken from aged care homes, to general hospitals, to be sent back to aged care homes due no beds. No risk of transmission there eh? I really think the whole structure of the health care system and the bureaucracy involved is as big a problem as the virus itself.

Instead of splashing $750 cash to 6.6million welfare recipients to buy LED TVs, why donít we put that money to a COVID sick relief fund for those actually working and too scared to get tested or else lose work. Pay companies to implement continuous testing programs. Government subsidised sick leave for COVID or COVID risk quarantined workers. Higher pay for COVID health care specialist workers.

95+% of us can get this virus and get over it with no real medical intervention. Yes, there is a risk for anyone who gets it that it may become serious, but life is full of risks, much greater than this for most of us.




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Old 14th Jul 2020, 01:13
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The latest research is saying antibodies are only good for about 3 months. A new more terrifying consequence is emerging within asymptomatic young people who were otherwise healthy low risk suffering blood clots and stroke.
We have a long way to go, best we do everything possible to avoid infection in the first place. I've seen enough to know we can't trust people to do the right thing.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 01:25
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A new more terrifying consequence is emerging within asymptomatic young people who were otherwise healthy low risk suffering blood clots and stroke.
So, a young bloke just walking down the street is gunna drop dead from blood clots and stroke?

That is absolutely terrifying. I vote we lock down the whole of Australia, inside their houses with absolutely zero permission to leave that house under any circumstance for two years.

This will have the secondary effect of finally reaching our road toll goal of zero deaths. It will also mean zero heart attack, cancer and other health issue deaths. Amazing.

Lets do it everyone, 'We're All In This Together' (Don't just say it, sing it in your best Kum Ba Yah voice).
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 01:53
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Nah! that doesn't sound like fun at all. I already have my head around this is likely to take a sizeable portion of the global population, I may well be one of them despite doing all I can to not get infected. I'm more concerned about what the US will do when their all angry and looking for someone to blame.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 10:56
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I'm more concerned about what the US will do when they're all angry and looking for someone to blame.
Well, that'll dwarf the effects of covid eh.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 11:27
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Originally Posted by Xeptu;[url=tel:10836496
10836496[/url]]I'm more concerned about what the US will do when their all angry and looking for someone to blame.
The world already knows who to blame for the Wuhan virus Shaggs.
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