Clearance to land in NSW to be dependent on presence of Covid test team
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Clearance to land in NSW to be dependent on presence of Covid test team
Following the release of passengers yesterday in Sydney before Covid tests were performed new rules will be introduced.
ABC News 24 report that flights will not be permitted to land until Covid testing teams are positioned and ready at the gate.
Yesterday the health team were still testing passengers from an earlier flight when passengers from the later flight were released.
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ABC News 24 report that flights will not be permitted to land until Covid testing teams are positioned and ready at the gate.
Yesterday the health team were still testing passengers from an earlier flight when passengers from the later flight were released.
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I think that is a good plan. If it breaks down at any point it fails safe. The aircraft doesn’t disembark until every one is on the same page. It also puts the aircrew in the loop who are probably just happy to be at work logging time.
People need to get a grip and stop whining about small inconveniences and start looking at the big picture.
People need to get a grip and stop whining about small inconveniences and start looking at the big picture.
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I think that is a good plan. If it breaks down at any point it fails safe. The aircraft doesn’t disembark until every one is on the same page. It also puts the aircrew in the loop who are probably just happy to be at work logging time.
People need to get a grip and stop whining about small inconveniences and start looking at the big picture.
People need to get a grip and stop whining about small inconveniences and start looking at the big picture.
Now I’m jelly, good to hear you are logging some time.
I think it is good to have the ‘crew’ in this loop. A pain in the backside no doubt but that is 2020 in a nutshell but I think as pilots we are generally pretty good at keeping the park brake set until we are good to go and as we see from this incident it leads to a Tempo ****efight if we don’t.
I think it is good to have the ‘crew’ in this loop. A pain in the backside no doubt but that is 2020 in a nutshell but I think as pilots we are generally pretty good at keeping the park brake set until we are good to go and as we see from this incident it leads to a Tempo ****efight if we don’t.
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Now I’m jelly, good to hear you are logging some time.
I think it is good to have the ‘crew’ in this loop. A pain in the backside no doubt but that is 2020 in a nutshell but I think as pilots we are generally pretty good at keeping the park brake set until we are good to go and as we see from this incident it leads to a Tempo ****efight if we don’t.
I think it is good to have the ‘crew’ in this loop. A pain in the backside no doubt but that is 2020 in a nutshell but I think as pilots we are generally pretty good at keeping the park brake set until we are good to go and as we see from this incident it leads to a Tempo ****efight if we don’t.
Why do you need the aircraft waiting on the tarmac burning fuel? Just don't connect the airbridge to the aircraft until the health people are in place. The ground agent has to wait at the first set of doors for the health people to accompany them to the airbridge. Really, the best solution is to have someone talk to someone to talk to the Tower to talk to the aircraft to tell them they can continue to the gate? Please can we amend the Constitution so that the States have to submit to the Commonwealth when there is a national health issue.
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Why do you need the aircraft waiting on the tarmac burning fuel? Just don't connect the airbridge to the aircraft until the health people are in place. The ground agent has to wait at the first set of doors for the health people to accompany them to the airbridge. Really, the best solution is to have someone talk to someone to talk to the Tower to talk to the aircraft to tell them they can continue to the gate? Please can we amend the Constitution so that the States have to submit to the Commonwealth when there is a national health issue.
I agree I think what lookleft said is a better way., I’m sure with some crew feedback it will find a natural solution. The problem might be if the aircraft gets to the gate like it did last night it is not fail safe. Once the beacons are off the ground crew will engage, even if the health staff aren’t there. I’m sure Sydney ground has a bit more spare time then they used too to get involved. I don’t like wasting fuel but a small price to pay at the moment until we normalise the procedure.
The Jetstar CEO fronted the media today and said there was some talk about all the different state requirements being co-ordinated.
Perhaps aircraft onto the gate but beacons stay on until the co-ord is confirmed?
The Jetstar CEO fronted the media today and said there was some talk about all the different state requirements being co-ordinated.
Perhaps aircraft onto the gate but beacons stay on until the co-ord is confirmed?
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I agree I think what lookleft said is a better way., I’m sure with some crew feedback it will find a natural solution. The problem might be if the aircraft gets to the gate like it did last night it is not fail safe. Once the beacons are off the ground crew will engage, even if the health staff aren’t there. I’m sure Sydney ground has a bit more spare time then they used too to get involved. I don’t like wasting fuel but a small price to pay at the moment until we normalise the procedure.
The Jetstar CEO fronted the media today and said there was some talk about all the different state requirements being co-ordinated.
Perhaps aircraft onto the gate but beacons stay on until the co-ord is confirmed?
The Jetstar CEO fronted the media today and said there was some talk about all the different state requirements being co-ordinated.
Perhaps aircraft onto the gate but beacons stay on until the co-ord is confirmed?
I noticed it a lot in a now previous life, introduce things without talking to the operators. I’m not saying pilots know it all but a quick ask for some input might have pointed out to whoever owns this that here is already a procedure that would dovetail well into this ie, no one approaches the aircraft until the beacon is off and in this Covid world the beacon doesn’t come off until the feds/state are in the aerobridge. I think with that procedure you wouldn’t even need ATC, they just clear you to the gate as per normal and your airline AMCO gives you the nod once you are on the gate and then you turn the beacon off...is simpiles!!
What has any of this got to do with airline operations.
An airline transports people in this case, from A to B. What happens to the passengers and any arrival procedures are NOT the responsibility of an airline.
Which ever twerp decided to the contrary is an idiot. As are those that have accepted that decision.
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An airline transports people in this case, from A to B. What happens to the passengers and any arrival procedures are NOT the responsibility of an airline.
Which ever twerp decided to the contrary is an idiot. As are those that have accepted that decision.
CC
Well ok CC, how should it be done?
Keeping in mind airlines have always had a responsibility to check people have a valid passport and a valid ticket on the way out. Are you suggesting Health staff should open the aircraft doors? Are you suggesting at the cost of many millions we redesign every domestic terminal so it has a customs type area so health staff can do their job there?
I’m keen to hear a better, cheaper way of doing it, or are you just going to whine?
Keeping in mind airlines have always had a responsibility to check people have a valid passport and a valid ticket on the way out. Are you suggesting Health staff should open the aircraft doors? Are you suggesting at the cost of many millions we redesign every domestic terminal so it has a customs type area so health staff can do their job there?
I’m keen to hear a better, cheaper way of doing it, or are you just going to whine?
Oz, the management of these health checkers must get their act together and have them ready and in place to meet the arrivals. If C.I.Q & H in the form of "Border Security" can do it for International arrivals perhaps the health people could learn from them.
If you want to have health department checks before boarding then go your hardest.
I repeat, these are health department checks that they must carry out, the checks are NOT the responsibility of the airline (or its staff).
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If you want to have health department checks before boarding then go your hardest.
I repeat, these are health department checks that they must carry out, the checks are NOT the responsibility of the airline (or its staff).
CC