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Old 20th May 2022, 03:28
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With REX offering 408 seats per week
QF just dumped an extra 300 seats per week on the route
Noting also exactly the same departure time as the AM REX service
There is only one goal here....

QF continues to to use it's size and market share to bully any upstart that tries to get a foothold and once they have eliminated the competition, then it's back to the miserable service and high prices to the consumers
I for one do not subscribe to the Australia can't support more than 2 airlines theory, there are plenty of examples on all continents, of 3-5 airlines serving thinner routes than here in Oz

I really hope that one day someone with deep pockets can have a real go at QF and teach them a lesson
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Old 20th May 2022, 03:40
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I really hope that one day someone with deep pockets can have a real go at QF and teach them a lesson
Someone like the governments of Abu Dhabi, Singapore, New Zealand and a multi billion dollar Chinese conglomerate?
Qantas wouldn’t stand a chance.
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Old 20th May 2022, 03:40
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Originally Posted by Deano969
With REX offering 408 seats per week
QF just dumped an extra 300 seats per week on the route
Noting also exactly the same departure time as the AM REX service
There is only one goal here....

QF continues to to use it's size and market share to bully any upstart that tries to get a foothold and once they have eliminated the competition, then it's back to the miserable service and high prices to the consumers
I for one do not subscribe to the Australia can't support more than 2 airlines theory, there are plenty of examples on all continents, of 3-5 airlines serving thinner routes than here in Oz

I really hope that one day someone with deep pockets can have a real go at QF and teach them a lesson
Pax loads were good for rex. It was purely to use the airframe somewhere else in the network. QF is just an excuse.
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Old 20th May 2022, 04:53
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Originally Posted by Deano969
I for one do not subscribe to the Australia can't support more than 2 airlines theory, there are plenty of examples on all continents, of 3-5 airlines serving thinner routes than here in Oz

I really hope that one day someone with deep pockets can have a real go at QF and teach them a lesson
To make it work here with sustainable earnings you need scale. More so vs other countries to offset the higher fixed costs of operating here. The magic number is about 30 aircraft. Tiger had its 30 aircraft plans, Rex and Bonza also have the same number.

Tiger got to 18 and that was about all the market could handle. However it still didn’t make money. In fact it lost $1b in 13 years.

Poor execution is half the reason why nobody ‘can take it to QF’. We won’t talk about the pussycat, and Rex is carrying single digits in and out of the Gold Coast today so they must be doing something wrong.
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Old 20th May 2022, 07:15
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Somebody very wise once said "all is fair in love, war and the airline industry".

There is nothing wrong with competition, at to the right wing anyway.
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Old 20th May 2022, 07:21
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Rex used predatory tactics on smaller operators all over the place. Crying about it now is the height of hypocrisy
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Old 20th May 2022, 07:53
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Rex used predatory tactics on smaller operators all over the place. Crying about it now is the height of hypocrisy
They said "Game On" or something similar in regards to Burnie to King Island but pull the pin in Albury.

It's pathetic to watch. I feel for the Albury pax
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Old 20th May 2022, 08:35
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Originally Posted by Mail-man
Rex used predatory tactics on smaller operators all over the place. Crying about it now is the height of hypocrisy
they did exactly the same thing to O’Connors.
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Old 20th May 2022, 11:02
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Will be interesting to see how Rex fare if Albanese gets in
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Old 20th May 2022, 22:13
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
Will be interesting to see how Rex fare if Albanese gets in
Don’t forget Federal labor was going to bail out Virgin Australia. I remember well, the shadow monsters on the pavement at T3 Melbourne in 2020 with carefully positioned crying employees in the rear shot, giving it to the Morrison government on why they won’t use taxpayer dollars to fund what would have been the Australian version of Alitalia. Thank christ that did not happen. Labor has a thing for funding red ink in this industry. Dan Andrews is using taxpayers cash to fund Jetstar’s losses at Avalon for 10 years.

Bailing out a 737 operation that carries no passengers? Well all they need to do is put all these magical pure fantasy forecasts in front of ministers. Cheque signed.

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Old 22nd May 2022, 01:58
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Seems Rex popularity on new Roma Charleville route dropping by the day as fares rise. To get discount now have to book 60 days before otherwise $520 to Roma recently. Some who live north of Roma starting to travel to Rocky to jet it instead to Brisbane
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Old 22nd May 2022, 02:23
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Originally Posted by megle2
Seems Rex popularity on new Roma Charleville route dropping by the day as fares rise. To get discount now have to book 60 days before otherwise $520 to Roma recently. Some who live north of Roma starting to travel to Rocky to jet it instead to Brisbane
Mate, that means the popularity is rising. If community fares aren't available until 60 days out rather than the usual 30, that means they've been sold.

Likewise, $520 is much above the base promo fare...
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Old 22nd May 2022, 02:38
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Orrrrr, it means they’re exploiting a legal monopoly route..
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Old 22nd May 2022, 03:17
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With the incoming Labor government, I can't see anymore free handouts or favourable outcomes decisions to Sharp and Co. Let's see if they stand on their own feet in the next 6-12 months.
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Old 22nd May 2022, 06:52
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Originally Posted by megle2
Seems Rex popularity on new Roma Charleville route dropping by the day as fares rise. To get discount now have to book 60 days before otherwise $520 to Roma recently. Some who live north of Roma starting to travel to Rocky to jet it instead to Brisbane
Brisbane–Roma–Charleville is a regulated route (Central 1). The maximum fare is set by the Queensland state government. You could fly Brisbane - Roma tomorrow for $160. Beyond that it will usually cost you up to the regulated price of around $345 one way.
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Old 22nd May 2022, 21:29
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From their website this Thursday late pm flight $476.49 flex fare only available Roma / Brisbane otherwise $346.09 on the rest. I’m no expert just hearing the locals not happy
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Old 22nd May 2022, 21:46
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Or......a whole one person north of Roma drove to Rocky, so that gives you poetic license to say lots of people are doing it.
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Old 22nd May 2022, 21:59
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Rex Hav, who said one, not me. Hope you double check your charts a bit more accurately
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Old 23rd May 2022, 22:05
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Ok Megs - I'll spell it out for you. I know you did not say ONE. Here's the explanation

Person 1. My mate from north of Roma drove all the way to Rocky to get a jet.
Person 2. I heard a guy from up north drove all the way to Rocky to get a jet.
Person 3. I heard people from up north are driving all the way to Rocky to get a jet.
Person 4. I heard everyone is just driving to Rocky nowadays to get the jet.

Hence my post ref your post - how many ACTUALLY is "some people are driving to Rocky"?

I hope you "interpret" your charts a bit more accurately.

I'm not trying to be a smart arse here Megs - I'm just saying, Ive been in growing outfits, including airlines, where every day
there is a new whirlwind of I heard, I heard, I heard. These I heards get louder and more embellished every day until
suddenly the airline is getting a bunch of SU30 Flankers for regional routes. So anything that states what a collective of
people are doing I treat with a grain of salt.

PS = poor choice of Username - Rex Havick does not work for Rex.

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Old 24th May 2022, 03:22
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Crickey Rex Hav ease off it’s just a low key observation
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