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Old 3rd Aug 2021, 05:05
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Any updates on 737 ops?

What is JS doing with his crews over the next 8 weeks. ADL-MELs for everyone?

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Old 3rd Aug 2021, 05:36
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Hypothetical, Rex dream team of lawyers find that QF has done the wrong thing (I don’t believe they have it completion that’s what happens)

Do they take them to court and then what? ACCC are obviously not interested in this story otherwise they would have acted.
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 09:16
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Never thought that I would agree with something that John Sharp says:

Mr Sharp criticised state governments for being “trigger happy” and shutting borders too quickly, calling again for a national approach to lockdowns and border closures.

The deputy chair also backed the idea of issuing Australians with vaccine passports to allow fully vaccinated people to travel domestically and attend events such as football games, noting such incentives would probably be needed to hit the government’s target of getting 80 per cent of the population vaccinated in order to end lockdowns and reopen international borders.

Mr Sharp also called on the federal government to modify industrial relations frameworks to allow frontline businesses such as Rex to mandate vaccines for staff, saying it would have a “considerable benefit” and go a long way towards protecting passengers and workers.


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Old 4th Aug 2021, 09:39
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Originally Posted by EPIRB
Never thought that I would agree with something that John Sharp says:

Mr Sharp criticised state governments for being “trigger happy” and shutting borders too quickly, calling again for a national approach to lockdowns and border closures.

The deputy chair also backed the idea of issuing Australians with vaccine passports to allow fully vaccinated people to travel domestically and attend events such as football games, noting such incentives would probably be needed to hit the government’s target of getting 80 per cent of the population vaccinated in order to end lockdowns and reopen international borders.

Mr Sharp also called on the federal government to modify industrial relations frameworks to allow frontline businesses such as Rex to mandate vaccines for staff, saying it would have a “considerable benefit” and go a long way towards protecting passengers and workers.


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Yeah, well fat chance with that. Frydenburg said yesterday that immediate lockdowns are the way of the future for now with costs up to five times greater if states don’t lockdown immediately on discovering community transmission.

Victoria’s approach has clearly trumped NSW’s in the most recent Delta outbreaks.

Immediate lockdowns and ongoing border closures are the management strategy for now. Longer term? Who knows. There doesn’t appear to be much of an appetite from the premiers to actually comply with the four phase plan. The reality of trying to explain to the punters why people are going to die and why that is ok appears to be quelling their enthusiasm somewhat. Kudos to Jodie McVernon for coming out this morning and calling a spade a shovel.

Australia’s political leaders need to start doing the same if they want a way out of this that doesn’t continue to look like the last 18 months - but with businesses actually going broke or net government debt continuing to rise as they try and plug the dyke forever.
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 12:28
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Originally Posted by SHVC
Hypothetical, Rex dream team of lawyers find that QF has done the wrong thing (I don’t believe they have it completion that’s what happens)

Do they take them to court and then what?
If Rex think they have a case they bring a civil action against Qantas in the Federal Court under the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth). They'd need to demonstrate that on the balance of probabilities that Qantas had contravened the Act, presumably an abuse of market power, and that the contravention had caused quantifiable damage to them. They might also apply for an interim injunction to stop Qantas doing whatever Rex alleges the contravention is. Being a civil matter a judgement could take a while, at least a year. If the ACCC, having been given a very specific brief last year to monitor and report on the aviation sector, haven't found anything, Rex would be on a hiding to nothing in bringing a stand alone civil action.
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Old 5th Aug 2021, 11:27
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Yeah, well fat chance with that. Frydenburg said yesterday that immediate lockdowns are the way of the future for now with costs up to five times greater if states don’t lockdown immediately on discovering community transmission.

Victoria’s approach has clearly trumped NSW’s in the most recent Delta outbreaks.

Immediate lockdowns and ongoing border closures are the management strategy for now. Longer term? Who knows. There doesn’t appear to be much of an appetite from the premiers to actually comply with the four phase plan. The reality of trying to explain to the punters why people are going to die and why that is ok appears to be quelling their enthusiasm somewhat. Kudos to Jodie McVernon for coming out this morning and calling a spade a shovel.

Australia’s political leaders need to start doing the same if they want a way out of this that doesn’t continue to look like the last 18 months - but with businesses actually going broke or net government debt continuing to rise as they try and plug the dyke forever.
The main reason is that Sydney initially had a 'Clayton's Lockdown' - department stores, etc. were still open. That was never the case in Victoria. In the first lockdown, closed meant CLOSED, with yes, places like Bunnings being open but if you got caught going to/from and used the excuse that you needed urgent repairs to your sink, you'd need to produce a receipt or the item(s) on the way back if that's when you got stopped and at Bunnings, there was a queue out the front to regulate the number of people in the building at any one time. We had a ring of steel. I would visit my Dad for care-giving and every time I returned home, EVERY TIME, I was required to pass through a Police Checkpoint outside metro Melbourne and explain where I had been, for what reason and where I was going.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 03:55
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Has Rex stood down it’s pilots? including the 737 pilots on contracts? Does contracted pilots even allow stand downs?
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 04:46
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A mate said they've issued a notice with intent to stand down and they will be issuing stand down directions in the next few days.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 05:07
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Yes, stand downs confirmed and will be announced end of this week, after Rex today revised its FY21 performance from the break-even forecast in May to an $18m loss.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...from-lockdowns
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 05:36
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Yes, stand downs confirmed and will be announced end of this week, after Rex today revised its FY21 performance from the break-even forecast in May to an $18m loss.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...from-lockdowns
Given NSW didn't go into lockdown until 26 June, I don't believe it could have affected the results for last year (2021) too much. This financial year (2022) is a different matter.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 05:46
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Given NSW didn't go into lockdown until 26 June, I don't believe it could have affected the results for last year (2021) too much. This financial year (2022) is a different matter.
Given they were already expecting a $15 million loss largely due to the Melboune lockdown, an additional $3 million due to Sydney is quite plausible.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 07:37
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Only 6 days ago, the all great JS had this to say;
https://amp.smh.com.au/business/comp...04-p58fsm.html
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 07:49
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Originally Posted by transition_alt
Given they were already expecting a $15 million loss largely due to the Melboune lockdown, an additional $3 million due to Sydney is quite plausible.

The devil will be in the detail. Last financial year they reported a 19.4M loss. They are now indicating just a 18M loss after all that has gone on and the 737 startup. It could be an 18M loss after a 60M handout. Be interesting to see how this is spun but looking forward to seeing how they try.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 10:15
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Only 6 days ago, the all great JS had this to say;
https://amp.smh.com.au/business/comp...04-p58fsm.html
Oh so last week they were having a go at Qantas for standing down staff yet now Rex are doing the same thing?

Have the 737 crew at Rex been on full pay through all of this?

No matter what happens, Rex will still try and lay some blame on Qantas, along the lines of “honest country airline forced to stand down staff because Qantas is competing on their regional routes while also preventing Rex from expanding into the capital city markets” 🙄
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 12:50
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I heard John Sharp took viagra but was disappointed.

His head just got longer
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 03:22
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So does anyone think realistically that the 737 operation can seriously continue past the planned first 12 months.? With so much of the Regional flying out of Sydney, they must be bleeding all their reserves quickly.
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 04:34
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Nah…..bunch of idiots.
I wish the pilots well, but management can choke a black rooster.
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 05:38
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Nah…..bunch of idiots.
I wish the pilots well, but management can choke a black rooster.
They haven't burned through their first 50m yet.
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 07:02
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It could go on for a while. I mean Tiger went for 13 years. Alarm bells starting ringing by 2010 but they kept throwing cash at it. I’ll never understand how it went on for another 10 -They were planning on shutting it.

What is a acceptable level of return for a 10 jet operation? It wouldn’t be much. A couple of million tops?
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 09:02
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It could go on for a while. I mean Tiger went for 13 years. Alarm bells starting ringing by 2010 but they kept throwing cash at it. I’ll never understand how it went on for another 10 -They were planning on shutting it.

What is a acceptable level of return for a 10 jet operation? It wouldn’t be much. A couple of million tops?
The tiger existed only due to the VA CEO at the time flogged it for a buck if I remember.
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