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Old 1st Sep 2020, 03:39
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28.42 onwards. Interesting claims.

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28.42 onwards. Interesting claims.

https://youtu.be/Wo1fA1OVamo
Interesting that Elizabeth Bryant talks about wanting to bottle Rex's apparent government influence and apply it to Virgin. I suspect that she may have had a go at just that. I've long suspected that at least part of the thinking in Bryant's appointing Paul Scurrah was an anticipation of a Federal Labor government last May.
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Interesting that Elizabeth Bryant talks about wanting to bottle Rex's apparent government influence and apply it to Virgin. I suspect that she may have had a go at just that. I've long suspected that at least part of the thinking in Bryant's appointing Paul Scurrah was an anticipation of a Federal Labor government last May.
Virgin would have become part government owned had Labor got in. That was very clear in the early day. We had local Labor MPs with associated TV crews begging on the sidewalk at T3 in Melbourne for a bailout.

I can’t even think to imagine that state this country would be in had Labor formed government. Just imagine.
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Well if the Nationals and Rex are anything to go buy, they would of been well looked after.
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Virgin would have become part government owned had Labor got in. That was very clear in the early day. We had local Labor MPs with associated TV crews begging on the sidewalk at T3 in Melbourne for a bailout.

I can’t even think to imagine that state this country would be in had Labor formed government. Just imagine.
Yeh, just imagine, a PM who wasn't on holiday in Hawaii then lied about coming back straight away and who was so out of touch while people's houses were on fire... a PM who would have acted on the atrocious state of aged care, which Scotty ripped $2B out of when he was Treasurer, we wouldn't have had hundreds of deaths in the aged care facilities, people with wounds with ants in them, malnourished, ill fed and have untrained people beating and tossing elderly around because private enterprise is so good at running things, not to mention a Minister for Aged Care who barely knows the name of his own department, certainly doesn't know anything about aged care or the state of it and would lose his job in any other realm of employment for incompetence...

A government that would have bailed VA out... so it's OK that the LNP bail out ZL but just not VA...

We also wouldn't have had people suiciding over the robodebt non-debts and the Commonwealth dragged into the courts and ordered to abandon the scheme which it characterised as nothing more than extortion... we wouldn't have had a megalomaniac 'Minister for Au Pairs' trying to turn us into a police state by having the military be allowed to spy on citizens, journalists being locked up for doing their jobs even when inquiries prove what they said was right, we wouldn't have had more and more so-called security laws to remove rights for something that is a minuscule threat compared with domestic violence... a destruction of the Superannuation system which is the envy of the world... yeah, just imagine if Labour had won...

What a mess we'd be in...
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Interesting that Elizabeth Bryant talks about wanting to bottle Rex's apparent government influence and apply it to Virgin. I suspect that she may have had a go at just that. I've long suspected that at least part of the thinking in Bryant's appointing Paul Scurrah was an anticipation of a Federal Labor government last May.
I'd like to know why she is even still there... she stood back and appears to have allowed the financial destructiveness of the previous era to continue unabated, overseen the loss of a major shareholder who then turned around and did a codeshare deal with their direct competitor in AU and NZ.

What exactly does a senior manager or board member need to do these days to get fired???????
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
Virgin would have become part government owned had Labor got in. That was very clear in the early day. We had local Labor MPs with associated TV crews begging on the sidewalk at T3 in Melbourne for a bailout.

I can’t even think to imagine that state this country would be in had Labor formed government. Just imagine.
**** knows what the current government is doing. They're tanking on the polls, asking the states to open borders when 80% of the country agree with closures. Scomo has been floundering around doing **** all.
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Sco Mo floundering? I think you know **** all. He is literally powerless in opening the borders.

80% want them closed? I very much doubt that but I’m keen to see your data on this.
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Latest newspoll.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/politics...ng-b881652897z
A special poll also showed 80 per cent of Australians support border closures if the health situation demanded it, with Victorians, who remain in stage-four lockdown, the least enthusiastic.
Scomo has started playing party politics again instead of actually leading the country all while knee deep in a crisis. It's floundering.
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Virgin would have become part government owned had Labor got in.
Would have been interesting really...the Labor party sold Australian Airlines to QANTAS in the 1990's, and started the sale of QANTAS by selling 25% of it to BA in 1993.

AND Aerial you consider that Govt purchasing VA with a debt in excess of $7 BILLION would have been a good idea?

Seeing how Governments run, that would have been a 70 Billion black hole in no time.

And really, even the Labor party (if they had of been in power) would not be that stupid...they are just saying what you want to hear...its called being in opposition and just having thought bubbles, and preaching to people that believe that those in Government are there for the electorates good (hahahahaha...yeah right!!!).



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A special poll also showed 80 per cent of Australians support border closures if the health situation demanded it
Hmm... RTFQ?

If that was the question asked, then that doesn't mean that 80 per cent of Australians support all current state border closures, because it depends on the health situation between the states.... I support the border closures around Vic at present, because the health situation demands it. But I don't support most of the other border closures, because the health situation doesn't demand it. So how would I have answered this question in the poll?
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Hmm... RTFQ?

If that was the question asked, then that doesn't mean that 80 per cent of Australians support all current state border closures, because it depends on the health situation between the states.... I support the border closures around Vic at present, because the health situation demands it. But I don't support most of the other border closures, because the health situation doesn't demand it. So how would I have answered this question in the poll?
From www.pollbludger.net
UPDATE: The wording to the latter question was, “do you think premiers should have the authority to close their borders or restrict entry of Australians who live in other states”, which drew responses of 80% yes and 18% no. State breakdowns: 76-22 in New South Wales, 74-23 in Victoria, 84-15 in Queensland, 92-5 in South Australia and 91-7 in Western Australia, from respective samples of 475, 371, 311, 119 and 146. The overall sample of the poll was 1507, and it was conducted from Wednesday to Saturday.
Rtfq
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Haha Derfred ya nong
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I don't have a horse in this race but I am struck by the fact that "Do you think premiers should have the authority to close their borders or restrict entry of Australians who live in other states" is a different question to "Do you support the current border closures?" There may be a positive correlation between answers to both questions but that has not been demonstrated.
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Originally Posted by Derfred
Hmm... RTFQ?

If that was the question asked, then that doesn't mean that 80 per cent of Australians support all current state border closures, because it depends on the health situation between the states.... I support the border closures around Vic at present, because the health situation demands it. But I don't support most of the other border closures, because the health situation doesn't demand it. So how would I have answered this question in the poll?
What knowledge does the great unwashed have to make informed judgements and hence respond to a "poll" ?
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What knowledge does the great unwashed have to make informed judgements and hence respond to a "poll" ?
Define "election".
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What knowledge does the great unwashed have to make informed judgements and hence respond to a "poll" ?
That lack of knowledge has certainly never stopped anyone on pprune.
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Interesting that Elizabeth Bryant talks about wanting to bottle Rex's apparent government influence and apply it to Virgin. I suspect that she may have had a go at just that. I've long suspected that at least part of the thinking in Bryant's appointing Paul Scurrah was an anticipation of a Federal Labor government last May.

I think you're right about Scurrah. Remember his wife who now resides at EY was Chief of Staff for Premier Anna Bligh and now has a gig through EY consultancy reviewing why the Qld government hires so many consultants! Scurrah's Qld Rail time was not a pattern of success either.
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I think you're right about Scurrah. Remember his wife who now resides at EY was Chief of Staff for Premier Anna Bligh and now has a gig through EY consultancy reviewing why the Qld government hires so many consultants! Scurrah's Qld Rail time was not a pattern of success either.
I am half expecting that if Labor win the upcoming Queensland election, Paul Scurrah will be in a state government job before the year is out (Tourism and Events Queensland is probably overdue for a new CEO).
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
I am half expecting that if Labor win the upcoming Queensland election, Paul Scurrah will be in a state government job before the year is out (Tourism and Events Queensland is probably overdue for a new CEO).
Scurrah was the first (post-Aurzon split) Queensland Rail CEO between 2011 and 2012. Fortunately for him it was years before the 2016 "railfail" happened under his numerous successors in Queensland
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