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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Lower North Shore
Posts: 162
Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
from the EBA:
“The Company may deduct payments from the pay of an Australian based pilot for any day the pilot cannot be usefully employed because of any strike, stoppage or other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...”
I have to disagree. If there aren’t enough bookings once borders are open, that’s a business / commercial problem.
Otherwise, why would ANY company ever pay VR / CR if they could just stand down the employee indefinitely?
“The Company may deduct payments from the pay of an Australian based pilot for any day the pilot cannot be usefully employed because of any strike, stoppage or other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...”
I have to disagree. If there aren’t enough bookings once borders are open, that’s a business / commercial problem.
Otherwise, why would ANY company ever pay VR / CR if they could just stand down the employee indefinitely?
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Maningrida
Posts: 30
Originally Posted by George Glass
Some thoughts from a survivor of ‘89.
- Its bad . Very bad. Accept it . And deal with it.
- People under stress will say and do things under stress that they will regret for the rest of their lives.
Don’t be one of them.
- The worst possible outcome will be when you start eating your own.
- Circumstances like these are great revealers of character. Behave in a way that you can look back on with pride.
- This too will pass.
- Its bad . Very bad. Accept it . And deal with it.
- People under stress will say and do things under stress that they will regret for the rest of their lives.
Don’t be one of them.
- The worst possible outcome will be when you start eating your own.
- Circumstances like these are great revealers of character. Behave in a way that you can look back on with pride.
- This too will pass.
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sydney
Age: 37
Posts: 396
Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
from the EBA:
..... or other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...”
..... or other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...”
I recommend you call AIPA legal for further clarification
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
from the EBA:
“…….other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...”
I have to disagree. If there aren’t enough bookings once borders are open, that’s a business / commercial problem.
Otherwise, why would ANY company ever pay VR / CR if they could just stand down the employee indefinitely?
“…….other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...”
I have to disagree. If there aren’t enough bookings once borders are open, that’s a business / commercial problem.
Otherwise, why would ANY company ever pay VR / CR if they could just stand down the employee indefinitely?
The opening of borders may not be the trigger to relax stand-downs I'm afraid.
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: The World
Posts: 760
Originally Posted by C441
Again I hope you're right but the company will argue that demand has collapsed because of C-19 and thus they "cannot be held responsible".
The opening of borders may not be the trigger to relax stand-downs I'm afraid.
The opening of borders may not be the trigger to relax stand-downs I'm afraid.
When the borders go back to 2019 levels it won’t be done all at once. It’ll be a few neighbouring nations in travel bubbles first, then later other nations which have handled the outbreak well. Nations which haven’t done well at handling the outbreak (US, Brazil for example) will be delayed even further. And even when citizens of those nations are allowed to enter there could be conditions attached. An antibody test, a statement of vaccination, caps on flights and pax numbers from certain countries, a quarantine until a rapid test is performed, limits on the entry of aged or vulnerable populations, limitations on those travellers entering remote and indigenous communities. It may be years until full and free unrestricted travel is back.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 275
The border argument can be summarised by the domestic situation. When all domestic borders are opened unrestricted, will all domestic pilots be stood up? I think not.
NSW and VIC borders are open unrestricted. Does that mean all domestic SYD and MEL based pilots have been stood up? No.
Hoping the situation will be different with International is Illogical.
NSW and VIC borders are open unrestricted. Does that mean all domestic SYD and MEL based pilots have been stood up? No.
Hoping the situation will be different with International is Illogical.
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Getting there eventually
Posts: 4
There’s a whole prop fleet stood down in SYD and BNE while the more expensive fleet is gaining routes.
I haven’t yet heard where the extended govt subsidies are being used, but that plus jobkeeper doesn’t make it hard to keep people stood down.
I haven’t yet heard where the extended govt subsidies are being used, but that plus jobkeeper doesn’t make it hard to keep people stood down.
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Asia
Posts: 825
They are using larger aircraft because they get a larger government subsidy.
Jetstar flew one passenger into Sunshine Coast today on a flight from Melbourne. What a waste of taxpayer dollars. I mean just charter a freighter for the supplies.
Jetstar flew one passenger into Sunshine Coast today on a flight from Melbourne. What a waste of taxpayer dollars. I mean just charter a freighter for the supplies.
