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Old 30th Jun 2020, 16:47
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist View Post
from the EBA:
ďThe Company may deduct payments from the pay of an Australian based pilot for any day the pilot cannot be usefully employed because of any strike, stoppage or other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...Ē

I have to disagree. If there arenít enough bookings once borders are open, thatís a business / commercial problem.

Otherwise, why would ANY company ever pay VR / CR if they could just stand down the employee indefinitely?
Qlink and Rex seem happy enough standing down pilots despite regional travel being permitted by the government.
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 20:30
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Originally Posted by George Glass View Post
Some thoughts from a survivor of Ď89.

- Its bad . Very bad. Accept it . And deal with it.

- People under stress will say and do things under stress that they will regret for the rest of their lives.
Donít be one of them.

- The worst possible outcome will be when you start eating your own.

- Circumstances like these are great revealers of character. Behave in a way that you can look back on with pride.

- This too will pass.
I too reiterate these sentiments. Be careful what you say and do - it will be your legacy.
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 21:13
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Originally Posted by George Glass View Post
Circumstances like these are great revealers of character. Behave in a way that you can look back on with pride.
Wise words indeed
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 23:17
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist View Post
from the EBA:
..... or other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...Ē
They are not responsible for no flying due to a pandemic, borders open or not. You are fighting a losing battle.

I recommend you call AIPA legal for further clarification
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 23:44
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist View Post
from the EBA:
ďÖÖ.other limitation of work for which the Company cannot be held responsible...Ē

I have to disagree. If there arenít enough bookings once borders are open, thatís a business / commercial problem.

Otherwise, why would ANY company ever pay VR / CR if they could just stand down the employee indefinitely?
Again I hope you're right but the company will argue that demand has collapsed because of C-19 and thus they "cannot be held responsible".
The opening of borders may not be the trigger to relax stand-downs I'm afraid.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 00:13
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Originally Posted by C441 View Post
Again I hope you're right but the company will argue that demand has collapsed because of C-19 and thus they "cannot be held responsible".
The opening of borders may not be the trigger to relax stand-downs I'm afraid.
Thereís a lot of ground between the current state of Australians borders being closed to all, and the 2019 state of being open.

When the borders go back to 2019 levels it wonít be done all at once. Itíll be a few neighbouring nations in travel bubbles first, then later other nations which have handled the outbreak well. Nations which havenít done well at handling the outbreak (US, Brazil for example) will be delayed even further. And even when citizens of those nations are allowed to enter there could be conditions attached. An antibody test, a statement of vaccination, caps on flights and pax numbers from certain countries, a quarantine until a rapid test is performed, limits on the entry of aged or vulnerable populations, limitations on those travellers entering remote and indigenous communities. It may be years until full and free unrestricted travel is back.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 01:12
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The border argument can be summarised by the domestic situation. When all domestic borders are opened unrestricted, will all domestic pilots be stood up? I think not.

NSW and VIC borders are open unrestricted. Does that mean all domestic SYD and MEL based pilots have been stood up? No.

Hoping the situation will be different with International is Illogical.

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Old 1st Jul 2020, 01:31
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Thereís a whole prop fleet stood down in SYD and BNE while the more expensive fleet is gaining routes.

I havenít yet heard where the extended govt subsidies are being used, but that plus jobkeeper doesnít make it hard to keep people stood down.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 05:40
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Originally Posted by ExtraShot View Post
Erm. If you arenít into speculation or the circulation of rumors I think youíre on the wrong website.
Every time I come back in for a look, people have to be reminded....
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 06:20
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They are using larger aircraft because they get a larger government subsidy.

Jetstar flew one passenger into Sunshine Coast today on a flight from Melbourne. What a waste of taxpayer dollars. I mean just charter a freighter for the supplies.
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Old 6th Jul 2020, 07:00
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Jetstar flew one passenger into Sunshine Coast today on a flight from Melbourne.
Extraordinary! Seems very odd to me. How many punters were on the outbound flight?
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