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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:51
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A380 crew will be back.

Unfortunately it will be in an A350. But itís better than the alternative and I gather after 3 years theyíll take anything...

Aviation really really sucks sometimes.

My gut feeling is however the recovery will be a lot faster than anyone imagined. Travel demand is still
there. Itís just restricted. As soon as the stimulus ticket sales go out, the seats will fill up and people will get moving. Just like domestic.

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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:55
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine View Post
A380 crew will be back.

Unfortunately it will be in an A350. But itís better than the alternative and I gather after 3 years theyíll take anything...

Aviation really really sucks sometimes.

My gut feeling is however the recovery will be a lot faster than anyone imagined. Travel demand is still
there. Itís just restricted. As soon as the stimulus ticket sales go out, the seats will fill up and people will get moving. Just like domestic.
I agree. There are a lot of glass half empty types here, but like you I believe the problem is that travel is restricted rather than the desire to travel has evaporated.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 12:58
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Prove me wrong.....
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 13:02
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What I mean is you can crap on and whinge but real international unrestricted travel is long off, at least a year for bubbles and 2-3 years for unrestricted travel, It’s dead in the water....
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 13:07
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Hong Kong just revived 26 positive Covid results off a inbound Emirates flight from Doha. From memory it was something like people in rows 20,22, 24, 26, 30, 32 etc etc. No one is saying they caught it on the aircraft but do you really think Australia and NZ are just going to import plane loads of Covid passengers from around the world. The fallout from Victoria should be enough to guide the jeez it may be the dregs but it is half full types. People can have desires, but that wonít get you through customs.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 13:46
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles View Post
Hong Kong just revived 26 positive Covid results off a inbound Emirates flight from Doha. From memory it was something like people in rows 20,22, 24, 26, 30, 32 etc etc. No one is saying they caught it on the aircraft but do you really think Australia and NZ are just going to import plane loads of Covid passengers from around the world. The fallout from Victoria should be enough to guide the jeez it may be the dregs but it is half full types. People can have desires, but that wonít get you through customs.
An Emirates flight? From Doha?
Emirates havenít flown to Doha for over 3 years, and QR the same from Dubai.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 13:48
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Once thereís a vaccine itíll be like the malaria pills we used to have to take. You get a shot and you head overseas.

I fully suspect though like SARs, itíll burn out and become less severe and more like a common cold.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 14:24
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine View Post
You get a shot and you head overseas.
It used to be three shots at one stage, early '70's, and you had a little Health book that went with your Passport....those were the days!
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 15:04
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[/QUOTE]Hong Kong just revived 26 positive Covid results off a inbound Emirates flight from Doha.
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https://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/flights_trains_en.pdf

Can't deny entry if residents.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 18:49
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine View Post
I fully suspect though like SARs, itíll burn out and become less severe and more like a common cold.
What are you basing that on?
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 20:53
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  1. It is already happening, read the reports coming out of Italy, they are saying that people who get it now and would have died 3 months ago are now not dying. They reckon it will fizzle out this year. The Brits disagree, they say it is becoming less fatal but will take 2-3 years to fizzle out. They both agree though it will be less fatal.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 21:12
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine View Post
A380 crew will be back.

Unfortunately it will be in an A350. But itís better than the alternative and I gather after 3 years theyíll take anything...

Aviation really really sucks sometimes.
Unfortunately? I think any pilot getting the chance to fly an A350 should be over the moon. Itís an infinitely better aircraft than an A380 which is the biggest white elephant in aviation. The A350 is better for the group, more fuel efficient, more flexible, gives the ability to open new routes which will give the company a competitive advantage. Having A350s in the group right now would probably mean a faster return to sustainable load factors and the normal resumption of international schedules.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 21:22
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It makes sense that if the A380’s are intended to be out for three years then slowly introduce A350’s instead.
Just have to get over the whole capital expenditure thing.
Mind you I heard AJ say yesterday that the capital raising was in part to help Qantas invest after the recovery??
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 21:31
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Actually, the wording was with reference to the capital raising;

”to capitalise on opportunities aligned with its strategy.”

?????

ASX

How much for a A350 at the moment?
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 21:47
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Yeah i heard that too but....
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 22:05
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I’m starting to believe my own crap now but why do a raising when you spruce to the market you have the ability to run in hibernation until the end of
2021?
Ok, so 600 million for redundancy payments.
Whats the rest for?
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 22:08
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Originally Posted by Arnold E View Post
I note that the 380's are going to be stored in the USA, anyone have an idea why they wouldn't be stored at Alice Springs ?
Its cheaper,dont listen to all the spin about them being in better condition when & if they decide to fly them again,after sitting over there for well over 12 months,getting them serviceable will be a nightmare.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 22:29
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If the 380s are there that long it is not just maintenance that is a problem, you effectively have to start the fleet from scratch again. Train the trainers etc etc.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 22:36
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When A380's start becoming freighters then they are already in the country that has the world's biggest freight companies.
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Old 25th Jun 2020, 22:53
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They spent $500m on refurbs for 6 of them. At least 6 will come back. My guess is the remaining money from the share raising will be used to buy 350s.
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