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Old 20th May 2020, 10:24
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Could you please repeat that in 'english'
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Old 20th May 2020, 10:37
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing View Post
Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.
Hilarious.
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Old 20th May 2020, 10:52
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Meet your new project sunrise crew when it gets going.
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Old 20th May 2020, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Section28- BE View Post
They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??? and how does, the pressure-vessel/hull system work?????

Just askin , got me stuffed- have a really great day.
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Doesnít matter. Theyíll all be flying 320s soon.
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:01
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Maybe theyíll call it Impulse Airlines!
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:09
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing View Post
Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.
HAHA!

The end of QF seniority list is not where you want to be right now.
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:16
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They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????
Well there's a few being parked by Delta if they want some more. Maybe QF are replacing some 737 flying post covid??

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton1/2020/05/17/delta-will-cut-717-operating-fleet-by-50-67-due-to-covid-19/#4c48d5c452d2


Any idea what the big picture is here?? How many AOCs does one airline actually need? Good news for empire building management I guess they get to duplicate everything again!
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:28
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As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Network will be the 320 operator and NJS will be 717 operator. Expect a bunch more 717s over the next few years.
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:31
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QF Management following the old expression...never waste a crisis!

As if there wasnít enough downwards pressure on terms and conditions
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:54
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy View Post
As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Network will be the 320 operator and NJS will be 717 operator. Expect a bunch more 717s over the next few years.
Perfect. Replace a very old plane with an old plane.
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Old 20th May 2020, 12:00
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Originally Posted by RickNRoll View Post
Perfect. Replace a very old plane with an old plane.
The 717s are early 2000s, same as a bunch of QFs 737s...
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Old 20th May 2020, 12:08
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy View Post
The 717s are early 2000s, same as a bunch of QFs 737s...
I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.
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Old 20th May 2020, 12:12
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early Ď90s builds.
QF was hardly going to replace them with C Series. The 717 as a replacement makes sense.

Originally Posted by Section28- BE View Post

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??
Engines supported and still being made by Rolls (Global Express and G5) and Avionics by Honeywell (VIA2000 is in C5 Galaxy and 777)

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Old 20th May 2020, 12:52
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they bought the AOC
You cannot buy an AOC.
You have to buy the entity that has been granted the AOC.
If the entity is a natural person, the AOC cannot go anywhere as you cannot buy a person.
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Old 20th May 2020, 13:12
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I think some of my friends on the 717 will sleep a little easier tonight knowing they are bound for new management and a vastly different culture. The 717 has plenty of life in it yet and so do the crews who fly them now.
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Old 20th May 2020, 13:51
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As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.
Ironic really since the Fokkers replaced the 717s in WA a few years ago.
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Old 20th May 2020, 14:11
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The timing of this move could be fortuitous for QF and disastrous for VA. QF could use the the low cost B717 to compete with VA on the East Coast routes charging fares VA could not match. The ACCC would be powerless to prevent this.
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Old 20th May 2020, 14:54
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It's good news for the drivers but it really is a pretty grim aircraft - the design is well over 50 years old and so there's only a couple of Operators left - I don't think they have much passenger appeal TBH
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Old 20th May 2020, 15:20
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
It's good news for the drivers but it really is a pretty grim aircraft - the design is well over 50 years old and so there's only a couple of Operators left - I don't think they have much passenger appeal TBH
The DC9 and 737 both started their life in 1963, so if the 717 is a grim aircraft based on its original design age, so too is the 737.

I think you might be surprised at the passenger appeal.
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Old 20th May 2020, 15:25
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early Ď90s builds.
So what happens to the F100 drivers/717 drivers in this scenario? I canít imagine them doubling up on crews if itís a replacement, especially how things are going to be into the future with demand.

Have they actually confirmed no redundancies for anyone?
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