FIFO aircraft operations given a free pass?
AAhh, no, you can't...
I am a NSW FIFO worker and I cannot get back to site for my next swing Well, technically I can - but I'll spend the entire swing in quarantine in my room, I cannot go on site, I cannot go to the mess for tucker, I cannot go to the gym, you get the idea.... And then my swing is over so I fly home and repeat the process in NSW....
The company is allocating two weeks leave for those in that boat, and after that, you'll need to start dipping into your own leave allocation. Talking to Perth-based colleagues, the companies are taking this extremely seriously, in come cases, specifically chartering aircraft vs the previously-normal share-an-RPT to help control who sits where and enforce distancing so much as you can in a tin tube, coupled with the aforementioned temperature checks before and after boarding, changing rosters on site to minimise interaction with other shifts and going from a 2/1 roster to 2/2. Woodside are reportedly offering interstate FIFO's extraordinary sums to relocate to WA for the duration of the lock-down to avoid the interstate quarantine issues.
When you consider mining royalties account for ~20% of WA's revenue in the 2018/19FY, keeping the dirt moving is unfortunately essential, particularly when you have a huge unexpected hole blown in your budget.
I am a NSW FIFO worker and I cannot get back to site for my next swing Well, technically I can - but I'll spend the entire swing in quarantine in my room, I cannot go on site, I cannot go to the mess for tucker, I cannot go to the gym, you get the idea.... And then my swing is over so I fly home and repeat the process in NSW....
The company is allocating two weeks leave for those in that boat, and after that, you'll need to start dipping into your own leave allocation. Talking to Perth-based colleagues, the companies are taking this extremely seriously, in come cases, specifically chartering aircraft vs the previously-normal share-an-RPT to help control who sits where and enforce distancing so much as you can in a tin tube, coupled with the aforementioned temperature checks before and after boarding, changing rosters on site to minimise interaction with other shifts and going from a 2/1 roster to 2/2. Woodside are reportedly offering interstate FIFO's extraordinary sums to relocate to WA for the duration of the lock-down to avoid the interstate quarantine issues.
When you consider mining royalties account for ~20% of WA's revenue in the 2018/19FY, keeping the dirt moving is unfortunately essential, particularly when you have a huge unexpected hole blown in your budget.
I still don’t see how FIFO is essential, or how the aerosol risk of infection is reduced in a Aircraft vs outdoors with groups greater than two people.
as for the WA mining royalties that’s a moot point, just wait for our 20% gst. As we pay off federal spending on this virus as consumers.
You probably don't want to hear that no coal is mined in the Pilbara region (which is where the bulk of FIFO traffic goes), its Iron Ore ,you've got absolutely no idea you imbecile
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On a Safety Tour of a mine in Central Qld quite a few years ago.
Manager mentions that it costs $3million per hour if the mine stops for any reason. They take safety very seriously. Stopping to do paperwork is also far more expensive than keeping everybody alive.
Casually mention it back at the private landing strip as my mate flies in from Wagga. A guy with a safety helmet grabs a package off him and speeds away.
Where have you been this morning?
They offered me $30K to fly down to Wagga to pick up a part for one of the mines. They said it was mission critical and the guy would be waiting at the end of the runway to pass it to you through the window so don't bother to switch off the engine - just turn around and bring it right back, pronto.
Faster to send down a local ag flyer guy than get it sent commercially via Sydney/Brisbane/Bush via air or truck, and then out to the mine.
They do take things seriously. Money doesn't talk out there, it shouts!
Great cash sideline for an ag flyer in mining country.
Manager mentions that it costs $3million per hour if the mine stops for any reason. They take safety very seriously. Stopping to do paperwork is also far more expensive than keeping everybody alive.
Casually mention it back at the private landing strip as my mate flies in from Wagga. A guy with a safety helmet grabs a package off him and speeds away.
Where have you been this morning?
They offered me $30K to fly down to Wagga to pick up a part for one of the mines. They said it was mission critical and the guy would be waiting at the end of the runway to pass it to you through the window so don't bother to switch off the engine - just turn around and bring it right back, pronto.
Faster to send down a local ag flyer guy than get it sent commercially via Sydney/Brisbane/Bush via air or truck, and then out to the mine.
They do take things seriously. Money doesn't talk out there, it shouts!
Great cash sideline for an ag flyer in mining country.
If you crunch the numbers after every Aussie Federal budget, you can see that GST should be around 17.5% to make the books balance and get rid of the State and Federal taxes and duty they promised to abolish when GST came in. I was privy to some of the conversations in Canberra about the amount to charge and they settled on 10% because it was an easy figure to calculate, not because it would help balance the books.
I cannot see them moving it to 15%, but going all the way to 20% - "just double what you are paying now and be glad you are alive".
As an aside, I also was there when they did the projections for old age and the pensions and how they calculated the amount of super to collect. The projections to the year 2015 were frightening for how much drain on the public purse old age pensions would be, and they also decided on the amount based on 'what the public could bear', and 'political survival', rather than what they would need to support the aged and needy.
Even before the Covid-19 cash splurge, we were still borrowing from the future and will be for many years, even with the gradual rise on the super amount each year.
I cannot see them moving it to 15%, but going all the way to 20% - "just double what you are paying now and be glad you are alive".
As an aside, I also was there when they did the projections for old age and the pensions and how they calculated the amount of super to collect. The projections to the year 2015 were frightening for how much drain on the public purse old age pensions would be, and they also decided on the amount based on 'what the public could bear', and 'political survival', rather than what they would need to support the aged and needy.
Even before the Covid-19 cash splurge, we were still borrowing from the future and will be for many years, even with the gradual rise on the super amount each year.
Low dollar could be good news for the mining charter guys. Good luck to them. Ironically it’s always been the notion that one day the contract would dry up and they’d be on the street. Well now it’s the RPT that’s dried up!
I have heard - third hand - (Rumour) that some FIFO's are now being transferred PER to NWN via a BUS....the diesel kind.
Longer transit times, and I have not heard anything about the 'seating' arrangements.
Any volunteers? More info?
Cheers.....and Good Luck To All.
Longer transit times, and I have not heard anything about the 'seating' arrangements.
Any volunteers? More info?
Cheers.....and Good Luck To All.
The mining companies will be creating their own airlines if they have to move their own people around. Maybe they will buy Virgin at a 'rescue' price?
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Really??? From the MSQ boss;
Mr Mitchell said 'there are a range of scenarios where you may want to take a boat out' but 'the first question you should ask yourself is: do you need to take your boat out?'
"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
"The same rules that apply on land also apply in our waterways, bays and out at sea.
"If you're looking for a loophole to leave the home, then you probably shouldn't be heading out."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
"The current rules don't seek to stop boat owners using their boats for essential reasons," he said.
"Boaties should stay as local as possible, and social distancing rules apply, at the boat ramp and on your boat.
"Boaties should only be with one other person, or with family from the same household."
Mr Mitchell said 'there are a range of scenarios where you may want to take a boat out' but 'the first question you should ask yourself is: do you need to take your boat out?'
"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
"The same rules that apply on land also apply in our waterways, bays and out at sea.
"If you're looking for a loophole to leave the home, then you probably shouldn't be heading out."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
"The current rules don't seek to stop boat owners using their boats for essential reasons," he said.
"Boaties should stay as local as possible, and social distancing rules apply, at the boat ramp and on your boat.
"Boaties should only be with one other person, or with family from the same household."
Really??? From the MSQ boss;
Mr Mitchell said 'there are a range of scenarios where you may want to take a boat out' but 'the first question you should ask yourself is: do you need to take your boat out?'
"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
"The same rules that apply on land also apply in our waterways, bays and out at sea.
"If you're looking for a loophole to leave the home, then you probably shouldn't be heading out."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
"The current rules don't seek to stop boat owners using their boats for essential reasons," he said.
"Boaties should stay as local as possible, and social distancing rules apply, at the boat ramp and on your boat.
"Boaties should only be with one other person, or with family from the same household."
Mr Mitchell said 'there are a range of scenarios where you may want to take a boat out' but 'the first question you should ask yourself is: do you need to take your boat out?'
"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
"The same rules that apply on land also apply in our waterways, bays and out at sea.
"If you're looking for a loophole to leave the home, then you probably shouldn't be heading out."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
"The current rules don't seek to stop boat owners using their boats for essential reasons," he said.
"Boaties should stay as local as possible, and social distancing rules apply, at the boat ramp and on your boat.
"Boaties should only be with one other person, or with family from the same household."
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Reckon, stay Calm.
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Reckon, stay Calm.
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"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
Really??? From the MSQ boss;
Mr Mitchell said 'there are a range of scenarios where you may want to take a boat out' but 'the first question you should ask yourself is: do you need to take your boat out?'
"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
"The same rules that apply on land also apply in our waterways, bays and out at sea.
"If you're looking for a loophole to leave the home, then you probably shouldn't be heading out."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
"The current rules don't seek to stop boat owners using their boats for essential reasons," he said.
"Boaties should stay as local as possible, and social distancing rules apply, at the boat ramp and on your boat.
"Boaties should only be with one other person, or with family from the same household."
Mr Mitchell said 'there are a range of scenarios where you may want to take a boat out' but 'the first question you should ask yourself is: do you need to take your boat out?'
"Queensland's Chief Health Officer has been very clear - if you don't need to be out then stay at home. That is now the law," he said.
"The same rules that apply on land also apply in our waterways, bays and out at sea.
"If you're looking for a loophole to leave the home, then you probably shouldn't be heading out."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
"The current rules don't seek to stop boat owners using their boats for essential reasons," he said.
"Boaties should stay as local as possible, and social distancing rules apply, at the boat ramp and on your boat.
"Boaties should only be with one other person, or with family from the same household."
He said there are essential reasons along Queensland's long and populated coastline where people need their boat - like fishing, exercise, going shopping, or getting to work.
Re GST. This tax is collected by the Commonwealth and distributed to the States and Territories by formula. Due to the downturn in the economy from tourism and everything else you can think of this means less money for the States in years to come. If the owners of Virgin will not put in lose change to extend their life support program this collapse is the tip of the iceberg. Even Qantas is small fry compared to keeping the mines open for as long as there are buyers for the coal and ore or employees to keep the operations going.
The importance of the mines can not be underestimated. Just in W.A the State government receives almost $10B in royalties and the Federal receives almost $8B in Company tax from mining activities. I do not have other figures except to say the figures for coal are even greater than iron ore.
The importance of the mines can not be underestimated. Just in W.A the State government receives almost $10B in royalties and the Federal receives almost $8B in Company tax from mining activities. I do not have other figures except to say the figures for coal are even greater than iron ore.
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So not just the FIFO given a free pass.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...0c62d02fb6bd67
I cannot sit at my local cafe and drink a coffee but cramming them into a cabin, with or without a seat in between is okay apparently.
https://www.dmarge.com/2020/04/qanta...ght-rules.html
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...0c62d02fb6bd67
I cannot sit at my local cafe and drink a coffee but cramming them into a cabin, with or without a seat in between is okay apparently.
https://www.dmarge.com/2020/04/qanta...ght-rules.html