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Old 25th Apr 2020, 07:28
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Word is that the WA BHP FIFO flying has basically doubled as a result of social distancing measures and conversion of RPT seat bookings into dedicated charter flights. Think VA has the lions share of that over there, so would be good for that operation. Think perhaps VA has more of the direct charter, whereas Q has more contingent RPT stuff for regional centres in direct support of localities with mine ops. Anyone here on forum actually conducting FIFO in the west? Not too sure on what RIO has done w.r.t. social distancing measures?

Despite the conjecture on the social distancing requirements, and have to agree it appears that FIFO workers must have some special built in immunity to Covid19 , the continuation of such resource operations was never in question when you look at the royalty contributions that happen w.r.t. state and federal governments budgets.



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 yes , approximately 114 pax in the 73 with the middle seats blocked
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Aren’t the Big miners mostly owned by foreigners so the advantages to Australia itself are becoming less as time goes !
All the previous governments have sold the Farm and this Corona Virus has just sped up the realisation that Australia is financially ruined , they will blame the Virus but that’s not the real reason.
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the continuation of such resource operations was never in question when you look at the royalty contributions that happen w.r.t. state and federal governments budgets.
I think the revenue to state and federal governments gets overstated. By far the biggest source of federal revenue is personal income tax.

WA as the major resource state looks like this.


So the best way to ensure government revenue streams is have people working and paying tax. So is a small cafe or restaurant, bicycle shop or bar less important to revenue than a minesite? I would say no, expecially since the federal government now has to hand out short term welfare to those businesses that are closed.
If it is okay to get on an aircraft, check in at a terminal and eat at the mine site mess then it must be okay to do the same in a city restaurant with careful consideration to how close tables are to each other.
We know there is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. Just look at school children, they cannot have four friends over to play or celebrate a birthday but they can go to school with hundreds of children and teachers.
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Originally Posted by Rabbitwear
Aren’t the Big miners mostly owned by foreigners so the advantages to Australia itself are becoming less as time goes !
All the previous governments have sold the Farm and this Corona Virus has just sped up the realisation that Australia is financially ruined , they will blame the Virus but that’s not the real reason.
I think you're confusing dividends with royalties and company taxes. An across the board average says that Australian resource companies are said to be 80% foreign owned, so 80% of company dividends go overseas, however company taxes are not affected by this and neither are royalties as paid to the applicable state or the Fed Gov when the resource is offshore and outside state jurisdiction, or however it's worked.
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okay to do the same in a city restaurant
Would you know who and where from you are sitting near to at a city restaurant?
On a mine site, you would most likely know.
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
I think the revenue to state and federal governments gets overstated. By far the biggest source of federal revenue is personal income tax.

WA as the major resource state looks like this.


So the best way to ensure government revenue streams is have people working and paying tax. So is a small cafe or restaurant, bicycle shop or bar less important to revenue than a minesite? I would say no, expecially since the federal government now has to hand out short term welfare to those businesses that are closed.
If it is okay to get on an aircraft, check in at a terminal and eat at the mine site mess then it must be okay to do the same in a city restaurant with careful consideration to how close tables are to each other.
We know there is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. Just look at school children, they cannot have four friends over to play or celebrate a birthday but they can go to school with hundreds of children and teachers.
Yeah all well and good, but there is an issue with this assumption, the balance of numbers, whereby your diagrams clearly illustrate, that a very few workers - namely mining and resource workers, (comparatively) pull way above their weight in the BIG picture / scheme of things. Simple to see that is why the pressure has been on to create continuity of supply for this part of the economy, and has just been mentioned here, A LOT easier to implement controls than say, in a food court at a shopping center employing people.

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