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Old 28th Mar 2020, 04:32
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Last QF 747 service?

Im hearing QF28 back from Santiago will be the last one, can anybody confirm if this is the case and what date it departs? Sad times, I hope Qantas finds a way to give it an appropriate farewell if this is the case...
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 06:29
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Unable to confirm, but I have it second hand (from a guy who is one level down from flt ops management) that they have all been sold and will go to the desert boneyard quickly.

...And that they are locked into the refurb contract for the first five 380s, but there wont be any more done after that.

Sad times indeed.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 06:46
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Ask Geoffrey Thomas, he is an aviation expert according to TV media.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 07:35
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Ask Geoffrey Thomas, he is an aviation expert according to TV media.
I heard GT was asked to Captain the last flight!
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 07:38
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Well, should be plenty of time to get the RINs sorted then.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 07:42
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My pick, assuming most airlines survive:

all B747’s retired
6 x A380 retired
JQ B787’s to QF

in a worst case some of the older B738’s and A320’s benched
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 07:58
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Originally Posted by longjohn View Post
My pick, assuming most airlines survive:

all B747s retired
6 x A380 retired
JQ B787s to QF

in a worst case some of the older B738s and A320s benched
A fair assessment Id say
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 08:20
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Originally Posted by longjohn View Post
My pick, assuming most airlines survive:

all B747s retired
6 x A380 retired
JQ B787s to QF

in a worst case some of the older B738s and A320s benched
Entirely possible. Even a week ago, I'd have said they wouldn't scrap the A380s early - and especially not until they'd seen how the crisis plays out. But, it's increasingly hard to see how demand recovers enough on the routes they'd want to use them on (Asia) for it to make much sense.

I'd still hope that they feel it'd be premature to retire any of the A380s.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 08:38
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Hub and spoke for the 380 again. Melbourne and Brisbane to Sydney then a 380 to Lax pax’s to Dallas, Jfk etc all then go on American Airlines.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 08:57
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Entirely possible. Even a week ago, I'd have said they wouldn't scrap the A380s early - and especially not until they'd seen how the crisis plays out. But, it's increasingly hard to see how demand recovers enough on the routes they'd want to use them on (Asia) for it to make much sense.

I'd still hope that they feel it'd be premature to retire any of the A380s.
Allegedly the early estimates are that it will be cheaper to pay the leases on parked A380s than to magnify the losses by actually trying to operate them. But there are a lot of assumptions in whatever modelling they are doing, of course. Its eventually likely going to be better or worse than anyones current guess.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 10:05
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The funny thing is, no one here has any idea what Qantas will do with their fleet! But by all means, do keep us entertained.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 10:30
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I've got a booking on QF73/QF74 SYD-SFO in September...not cancelled yet as I am hanging on to some slim hope it will be possible to travel then. Booking still states B744 at the moment (after it was changed from B789 a few weeks ago), but I guess updating flights that far out is probably a low priority right now. I was looking for one last chance to fly on a 747 before they retire, was gifted it with the equipment swap, but will likely lose it now...first world problems.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 12:33
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Its eventually likely going to be better or worse than anyone’s current guess.
I hope that that is not a barbed wire fence you are straddling.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 12:52
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I meant to convey that there are way too many unknowns for any estimate or model to have any hope of accuracy. I am out of the prediction business because ultimately, who cares?
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 21:09
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We still have no idea where those 100 A32xNEOs that AJ bought are going do we?

Are they firm or options?
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 22:51
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The 380....forget Dallas. The 787 will do that.
How many 380s do they need to do just SY-SIN-LHR and SY-LA?
744s gone.
After the EA is ratified look for some early 350s to be delivered I think?
Of course after all this mess has died down.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 22:57
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Originally Posted by Chris2303 View Post
We still have no idea where those 100 A32xNEOs that AJ bought are going do we?

Are they firm or options?
Right now, I doubt you can consider any orders to be 'firm' - especially anything more than a year out.
In during the aftermath of 9/11, Boeing production dropped from ~50 aircraft/month to about 25/month. Further, some operators would take delivery of a brand new aircraft - often without the interior - and fly them to the desert and park them.
I'm not a gloom and doom guy - I think things will recover - just like they did after 9/11 - but it's going to take a while...
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus View Post
Unable to confirm, but I have it second hand (from a guy who is one level down from flt ops management) that they have all been sold and will go to the desert boneyard quickly.

...And that they are locked into the refurb contract for the first five 380s, but there wont be any more done after that.

Sad times indeed.
Word is that GE have bought the 5 747ER,s & will not fly again on a qantas service.
No idea on 380 reconfigs but makes sense im thinking.
Will be plenty of 787's that can be picked up cheaply & reconfigured if need be or as suggested jq 787's painted red & white.
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 03:25
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At a Longhaul EA briefing I attended overseas, it was made quite plain that the 380 will not be doing MEL-LAX once it ceased due to the current circumstances. That plan was already in place.
It was an interesting proposal given that commercial premium load factors are probably as good if not better than most, on that route.

That was about 4 weeks ago well before the full impact of the current downturn was recognised or, at least, considered probable.
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 06:27
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Looks like QF28 just did a farewell harbour scenic.
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