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Just announced Virgin standing down 8000 people. Good luck all.
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All flying except aircraft movements gone till end of a June
update: flying reduced to 90%, serious consolidation amongst the group. Good luck everyone.
update: flying reduced to 90%, serious consolidation amongst the group. Good luck everyone.
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It's very unpalatable, but this may well save Virgin.
Permanently get rid of Tiger, downsize aircraft and staff to a core that can allow a break even operation when it all comes back after COVID (and it will).
Good luck to all.
Permanently get rid of Tiger, downsize aircraft and staff to a core that can allow a break even operation when it all comes back after COVID (and it will).
Good luck to all.
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From the ASX this AM:
* Capacity reduction 90%. 125 aircraft grounded until mid June
* Tiger grounded immediately.
* 8000 staff stood down.
* Closure of NZ pilot and cabin crew base, Tiger MEL pilot base.
* Capacity reduction 90%. 125 aircraft grounded until mid June
* Tiger grounded immediately.
* 8000 staff stood down.
* Closure of NZ pilot and cabin crew base, Tiger MEL pilot base.
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Today's ASX notice says (in part):
“We plan to return Tigerair Australia and Virgin Australia to the skies as soon as its viable to do so, however I am mindful that how we operate today may look different when we get to the other side of this crisis......"
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QAN is in a much stronger position than VAH because of its much higher level of fleet owned versus fleet leased. QAN owns its 14 787s (11 delivered) and based on today's announcements, looks to be able to raise more than $2b if required againast those 14 787s on favourable terms, while VAH can't do the same with its much higher proprotion of leased aircraft, which presumably it must keep paying leases on even while drawing no revenue? I believe VAH only owns 4 of its B777s and leases all of the A330s and ATRs and around half its B737s.
Turns out closing borders 2 months too late doesn’t work out too well for domestic travel or the economy as a whole.
The Government knew this was coming and buried their head in the sand putting lives at risk, closing companies and putting people out of work.
The other night I was shown a clip of the prime minister saying “stop it” in reference to people hoarding. While I don’t condone hoarding what do you expect people to do given the pathetic speed and measures put in place?
You have a live real life example of a first world country with a high end medical system being absolutely crippled and yet you standby with slow soft measures when time and discipline are the key to the battle.
Can we get someone Left/Right/Centre with a goddamned backbone to run this country at any stage? They should be hung for their inaction.
Absolute disgrace.
The Government knew this was coming and buried their head in the sand putting lives at risk, closing companies and putting people out of work.
The other night I was shown a clip of the prime minister saying “stop it” in reference to people hoarding. While I don’t condone hoarding what do you expect people to do given the pathetic speed and measures put in place?
You have a live real life example of a first world country with a high end medical system being absolutely crippled and yet you standby with slow soft measures when time and discipline are the key to the battle.
Can we get someone Left/Right/Centre with a goddamned backbone to run this country at any stage? They should be hung for their inaction.
Absolute disgrace.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the need for hard measures right now, Like today. Actually, like early January. Politicians are still trying to look measured and wise. They instead need to set the tone, order people indoors, empower the police, and armed forces if required, to immediately detain offenders. Suspend habeas corpus.
Instead we are going to prolong this event until 100 more people die, another week is lost and everyone, including thectreasury, is flat broke.
That idiot Trump is putting America on a path to disaster and Scumo is going to wimp us into the same trajectory until it is too late.
Maybe he thinks his third-rate marketing skills will be enough to convince people not to get sick? Leadership...where the bloody hell are you?
Instead we are going to prolong this event until 100 more people die, another week is lost and everyone, including thectreasury, is flat broke.
That idiot Trump is putting America on a path to disaster and Scumo is going to wimp us into the same trajectory until it is too late.
Maybe he thinks his third-rate marketing skills will be enough to convince people not to get sick? Leadership...where the bloody hell are you?
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What's so difficult for people to understand that this is doubling every 3 days. The mathematics are fairly simple. There's been far too much of "I can't see it, so it's not real"
That useless wimp Scomo needs to act now (today) and lockdown the country for a minimum of 3 weeks. No ifs ands or buts. Use the military and police if required.
Do your bloody job Prime Minister and lead for once.
That useless wimp Scomo needs to act now (today) and lockdown the country for a minimum of 3 weeks. No ifs ands or buts. Use the military and police if required.
Do your bloody job Prime Minister and lead for once.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the need for hard measures right now, Like today. Actually, like early January. Politicians are still trying to look measured and wise. They instead need to set the tone, order people indoors, empower the police, and armed forces if required, to immediately detain offenders. Suspend habeas corpus.
Instead we are going to prolong this event until 100 more people die, another week is lost and everyone, including thectreasury, is flat broke.
That idiot Trump is putting America on a path to disaster and Scumo is going to wimp us into the same trajectory until it is too late.
Maybe he thinks his third-rate marketing skills will be enough to convince people not to get sick? Leadership...where the bloody hell are you?
Instead we are going to prolong this event until 100 more people die, another week is lost and everyone, including thectreasury, is flat broke.
That idiot Trump is putting America on a path to disaster and Scumo is going to wimp us into the same trajectory until it is too late.
Maybe he thinks his third-rate marketing skills will be enough to convince people not to get sick? Leadership...where the bloody hell are you?
Just for some perspective.
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Anyway, back on topic....
I thought it was interesting how Tiger will fly under Virgins AOC. Didn't they try that before?
I thought it was interesting how Tiger will fly under Virgins AOC. Didn't they try that before?
Perspective? Really? FFS. This virus is at least twice as infectious as the flu, It is anywhere from 10 tp 40 times more deadly, smd there is no vaccine, no treatment, and no herd immunity. How’s that for ******* perspective?
The amount of people saying this is just another flu strain and that the mortality is lower is somewhat concerning.
Mortality rates for the flu is about 0.1%.
Mortality rate for covid-19 is about 4.4% at the moment.
Mortality rates for the flu is about 0.1%.
Mortality rate for covid-19 is about 4.4% at the moment.