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QF Flight Attendant Accused of Racism by will.i.am

Old 20th Nov 2019, 14:18
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Old 20th Nov 2019, 15:10
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Originally Posted by Bend alot View Post
My guess will be she will not take Qantas offer and Qantas have nipped any bully claim in the butt, in a very public way.
(My bold)
That's a heck of a typo - if so, she'll be suing her employer for sexual harrassment?!
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Old 20th Nov 2019, 16:23
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Old 20th Nov 2019, 18:08
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I could see a long jet blast thread, finish the sentence, will.i.am a .........fan of noise cancelling headsets
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Old 20th Nov 2019, 23:44
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My experience with QF cabin crew is that they are spring loaded bear traps looking for a reason to snap. Especially anyone with an elevated position. I steer well clear.
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Old 21st Nov 2019, 00:17
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My experience with QF cabin crew is that they are spring loaded bear traps looking for a reason to snap. Especially anyone with an elevated position. I steer well clear
You must be one of those do you know who I am types. I'm lucky, in all my years of travel I've never seen an incident of any type whilst travelling, but I appreciate there are knobs among the pax ranks and crew can be tested to the extreme. The crew are human and can have an off day or when a dill is the subject of their attention. Cilla Black has been nominated by quite a number of crew as the very worse pax, refused to talk to crew as it was somehow beneath her status, all communication had to be via her PA.
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Old 21st Nov 2019, 04:23
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I must be? Haha, come on, I am fully aware that I am ďnavel lintĒ!

In fact in the big scheme of things we all are.

It was a poor post of mine, in that I didnít stress that itís been my personal experience from a lifetime of comparing many airlines as a paying customer and that itís mainly QF senior or elevated cabin crew in comparison to all the others.

Perhaps it was the cabin staff with the attitude of ďdonít they know who I am......etc?Ē

Ot perhaps itís an example of coal face staff reflecting the example of welcome, warmth and service that filters down from their leadership and management?

And any pissweak individual in a position of power without any decent character or personality can be a dick over trivial things and cause unnecessary and regrettable escalation.

You all yak about headsets, shit, I spend most of my flights asleep, and in most cases on VA itís a gentle shake and my mumbled apology.

I am am quite aware of my lowly status, but if I or another get treated rudely or improperly then I will return the attitude and thatís not a good character trait, sorry.


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Old 21st Nov 2019, 05:26
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Originally Posted by Bend alot View Post
Then it would be completely foolish and irresponsible of her her not to accept the Qantas offer, and prevent such things happening to other staff members.
Perhaps

She may just wish to keep her head down

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Old 21st Nov 2019, 10:39
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Originally Posted by maggot View Post
Perhaps

She may just wish to keep her head down
Yes a Duke of York could end badly - best keep the head down.

Let fellow workers suffer the same humility of being shamed - when you can stop that possibly happening again.

I expect he was not in Cattle Class nor she works "that place" (speculation from me), but she has earned that position and it will be respected - no matter what. Supported by "Blind Faith" of fellow crew.
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 01:57
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Originally Posted by megan View Post
You must be one of those do you know who I am types.
He/she may be, but Iím not. Im just a commoner. I get the same general sense from SOME attendants. The general consensus all-round (friends family) is to NEVER press the call button lest you piss off the dragon and end up with the looming threat of a defamation case
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 02:50
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Originally Posted by QuarterInchSocket View Post

The general consensus all-round (friends family) is to NEVER press the call button lest you piss off the dragon



So your friends and family must have a lot of experience with the call button and pissing off the.... flight attendants!
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 15:49
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Another complete idiot playing the race card in a futile effort to make a name for himself - one he cannot even spell!! Looking at his other social media outpourings, he really needs to go to school (I doubt that he has ever been to one) to learn basic spelling, both English & American.
Full marks to the FA and I wish her well.
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Old 23rd Nov 2019, 02:30
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The general consensus all-round (friends family) is to NEVER press the call button lest you piss off the dragon
You might want to get a new family and friends, bunch of shorts, singlets and thongs wearing boguns?
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Old 23rd Nov 2019, 05:03
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
So your friends and family must have a lot of experience with the call button and pissing off the.... flight attendants!
or, have observed and learnt from othersí misfortune.

to the other snide remark about the thong/singlet wearing brethren... how often are you seeing that attire in qf j class? Or even qf y class? Not often enough to consider it a norm, Iíd suggest - and you canít get away with that attire on staff travel, anyway.

the comment was to reflect the behaviour of SOME crew, NOT all
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 02:27
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A couple of items in Friday's "Australian", as they hide behind a paywall perhaps the Mods will allow.
Byron Bailey – The real reason behind cabin crew instructions

The primary duty of cabin crew is the safety of passengers. Qantas flight attendants are probably the most professional, qualified and experienced of any airline. They take their responsibility seriously and they are not required to smile when directing passengers to obey lawful directions which passengers are well informed that they must obey.These directions are enshrined in law and such requirements as stowing tray tables, seats upright, laptops stowed and so on are part of the legal requirement for landing.That a problem occurred with this Black Eyed Peas rapper not initially obeying the flight attendant’s request to stow his laptop for landing was fortunate for him only insofar as this was not a flight in the US.For the matter to be referred to the senior cabin crew member who then informed the captain means he crossed the line somehow and a request by the captain for the Australian Federal Police to meet the aircraft is a serious matter.He was lucky the AFP cut him some slack and treated it as a misunderstanding for which an Australian would not have been treated so leniently.In the US he would have been escorted off the aircraft in handcuffs and in Dubai probably would still be in a cell.In the post—September 11, 2001 era with the pre—boarding trauma of security, passengers are often stressed, and I admire cabin crew who deal with hundreds of passengers daily.The pilots have it easy in this regard, although one time on an Airbus flight out of Tehran I declined to assist my purser, when she had lost control of the seating arrangements in business class after a mullah decided to enforce sharia such that no woman could sit next to a man not her relative. In such a situation, religious matters take precedence.What is not acceptable is that this “celebrity” used a despicable slur of racism against the flight attendant to his millions of followers to the extent that Qantas was being trolled online as “the white supremacist airline”. This also impugns Australia as well. My opinion is that this must not be allowed to stand. Qantas should enforce legal action to have the slur retracted and an apology issued to both the flight attendant and Qantas.Failure to do so should bring in the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and the federal Transport Minister such that the Black Eyed Peas will not receive visas to travel to Australia.Why was this band member travelling on an airline? Real celebrities travel on corporate jets where they can conduct themselves, within certain limits, how they wish.Most of the corporate jet charters I have been on in the last 10 years have been with film stars who are very pleasant and rock stars the opposite.

Robyn Ironside – Safety videos ‘not entertainment

Entertainment focused in-flight safety videos have been blamed for under playing the importance of safety on airlines and giving rise to incidents like the one involving American rapper will.i.am.

Police were called to meet his Qantas flight from Brisbane to Sydney on Saturday after he initially failed to respond to directions from a cabin crew member to stow his laptop for landing.He blamed his noise-cancelling headphones and no charges were laid, but the Black Eyed Peas star took offence at his treatment.In a series of tweets, will.i.am identified the flight attendant by name, posted a picture from her Facebook page and called her racist, triggering a wave of cyber abuse towards her.Qantas requested he retract those comments and offered to provide legal support for the flight attendant, who is required by law and her employer to ensure that passengers abide by safety directions on aircraft.Flight Attendants Association of Australia secretary Teri O’Toole said a recent survey of members found abuse from passengers was now commonplace.Of more than 900 cabin crew surveyed, 95.7 per cent said they had been verbally abused by passengers and 97.5 per cent said it was happening more often.The trigger was generally a simple instruction, such as "it’s time to stow your laptop for landing”, “remove charger cords” or “return your seat to the upright position”.“Every direction given is given for a good safety reason,” Ms O’Toole said. “It’s not because we like the sound of our own voices. Who on Earth wants to say 4000 times a day ‘please switch your phone to flight mode?”She believed the increase in abuse was connected to the shift towards “entertainment-style in-flight safety videos” which focused on tourism or humour rather than the reasons behind the safety messages.“Passengers have become complacent about safety issues because they don’t fully understand why a safety direction is given,” Ms O’Toole said.“At the moment l think our safety videos are a travel blog. You have people doing the safety demonstration on a yoga ball. lt’s watered down the reason those safety requirements are there.”Ms O’Toole “guessed that was why people were so non-compliant with things like putting their bags away, putting their seats upright and opening the window shade”. “These are all done for safety reasons,” she said.Window shades were raised so cabin crew had a clear view of the exterior during landings and take-offs because they could not open aircraft doors if there was fire.Seats needed to be upright for landing so they would be rigid -in the event of things going wrong and charger cords had to be removed because they were a potential hazard during an emergency exit.“Everything has a purpose, and in addition cabin crew are audited by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority to ensure we are adhering to their strict safety standards,” Ms O’Toole said.Japan Airlines was singled out as one of the few carriers that explained why safety directions had to be followed, in an animated in-flight safety video.“It shows that if you stop to get your bags out in an emergency, people are backed up behind you,” Ms O’Toole said. “It gives some context to the requirement and why we have those requirements.”In—flight safety videos have almost become a source of competition among airlines in the past decade, with carriers trying to produce the most entertaining presentation.All must be signed off by regulators before being shown on aircraft but that has not stopped a wide variety gaining approval.A Qantas spokesman said their videos’ primary purpose was to communicate an important safety message.“We know from our previous efforts that beautiful locations with a touch of humour is a great way to get people’s attention each time they fly,” the Qantas spokesman said.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 03:42
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Instead of just apologising and stowing his gear like everyone else he took umbrage.

Instead of treating it as a misunderstanding (as the AFP apparently did) he sought her out on FB so that he could expose her full name to the wrath of social media.

Just a small man really.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 13:24
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 02:05
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I flew on American Airlines the other day. Fairly slack cabin crew. They landed with seats reclined in the cabin, pillows and blankets on the floor etc etc.

If that’s the US standard, I wouldn’t be surprised if Will.I.Am has been getting away with ignoring cabin crew for years in the US, and has just been taught that some airlines and countries actually take professionalism seriously.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 06:10
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He’s called will.i.am because ******.i.am has too many characters
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 06:12
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How about that! Censorship! Can I post Wankle Rotary Engine? Yes!
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