Ozzies can’t fly when it’s windy?
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With the general lowering of basic flying skills, lower cross wind limits is probably a good idea in case some automation dependent child of the magenta line gets put into a situation which exceeds his capabilities. Some people struggle with 10kts of cross wind let alone 20kts.
Krismiler has nailed it!
16L for departures?
I am surprised there is not greater use of 16L for departures when there's a howling sou-wester blowing. Other than getting across 25, departures off 16L do not physically conflict with 25.
I'm sure most pilots would agree that a gusty 30 knot crosswind on take-off is considerable easier to manage than on landing.
I'm sure most pilots would agree that a gusty 30 knot crosswind on take-off is considerable easier to manage than on landing.
With the general lowering of basic flying skills, lower cross wind limits is probably a good idea in case some automation dependent child of the magenta line gets put into a situation which exceeds THEIR capabilities. Some people struggle with 10kts of cross wind let alone 20kts.
No one checked to line by an RPT operator in Australia can't land at the crosswind limit of their aircraft.
I'm quite enjoying this discussion, however there's two scenarios at play here I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. The airlines and airservices have their planning hookup the night before, and based on the forecast, plan for 25 only ops at Sydney. The airlines go and manage their schedules from there. I think that's how it happens.
Now, the two options are to do this, or in the morning some time when the winds aren't as bad as forecast, ATC says 'Let's use the parallels now' and off they go. Would the airlines then get all angry because they have already cancelled flights, bumped pax, moved crews, managed airframes etc.based on the predicted use of 25 only?
Can anyone actually win in this situation? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Now, the two options are to do this, or in the morning some time when the winds aren't as bad as forecast, ATC says 'Let's use the parallels now' and off they go. Would the airlines then get all angry because they have already cancelled flights, bumped pax, moved crews, managed airframes etc.based on the predicted use of 25 only?
Can anyone actually win in this situation? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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The mob I work for does simulator training for 40 knot crosswind, Captain only. Low time F/Os are not a problem. They will just have to sit there and clench their teeth. Heathrow gets on just fine with 2 parallels.
The primary mission of the system in Australia is to generate revenue for Airservices and generate profit for the owners of the airports. There is no financial incentive for Airservices or the airport owners to run it any differently, or to instal the runways or technology or to pushback on the politically-determined runway allocations at Sydney, so that the not unusual weather phenomena called “fog” and “wind” wouldn’t throw almost the entirety of the airways into chronic delay.
The frustration of and costs to punters is a mere externality and of little relevance when they continue to line up - sheep like - to pay for more.
Rated De nailed it @ #54.
Originally Posted by Full Opp Rudder
Footage reportedly taken last Saturday. Good test of co-ordination skills with a satisfactory result ...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-...n-way/11307568
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-...n-way/11307568
To be fair, they are flying an Airbus