climbing the ladder to...... nowhere?
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Best advice to any OS Airline coming here is....don't crash, cause if you do by law you will die after the actual crash!
In a world that's gone mad Straya leads the way in stupidity!
In a world that's gone mad Straya leads the way in stupidity!
When you allow organisations such as Workplace Health and Safety to go too far, you get the Nanny State. That leads to pussies like this fire chief being put in charge.
With all this dumbing down and limpdick training, heaven help us if we ever have a 9/11 situation.
With all this dumbing down and limpdick training, heaven help us if we ever have a 9/11 situation.
Is this a modern day Monty Python skit?
Normally this 'unique to Australia' safety (anyone built a pool recently??) rubbish depresses me, but that is pure genius stupidity. I'd love to say 'unbelievable' but I just can't as I live here. Did make me laugh very hard though. Thank you for posting!!
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And these people run the country.
Reminds me me of when casa were in the senates estimate and they were being asked when the regulatory reform process would be complete.
To which the reply was something along the lines of they were working on the plan for the plan and it should be competed within a couple of years. (The plan for the plan).
Taxpayers certainly get value for money.
Reminds me me of when casa were in the senates estimate and they were being asked when the regulatory reform process would be complete.
To which the reply was something along the lines of they were working on the plan for the plan and it should be competed within a couple of years. (The plan for the plan).
Taxpayers certainly get value for money.
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This country is run by empires. Safety, security, HR, all parasites with clipboards.
From what I could glean from the video, between laughing uncontrollably, was that they only “train” on ladders up to 2M but if they have to actually fight a fire on an aircraft then they can use whatever sized ladder that’s available. My question would be, if you haven’t trained realistically, then how effective will you be if you have to climb onto the upper deck of an A380 for the first time, in a real life or death situation? Answer of course is not very effective at all.
From what I could glean from the video, between laughing uncontrollably, was that they only “train” on ladders up to 2M but if they have to actually fight a fire on an aircraft then they can use whatever sized ladder that’s available. My question would be, if you haven’t trained realistically, then how effective will you be if you have to climb onto the upper deck of an A380 for the first time, in a real life or death situation? Answer of course is not very effective at all.
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Someone fell off a ladder, 3 months off with a broken wrist plus another year for PTSD, with surgeons, physio, fortnightly doctors visits, psychiatrists plus normal wages probably well over 200k. AirServices threw up their arms and said fine no ladder training cross that bridge we get to it (which they probably won’t).
Whats the alternative? No workers compensation at all? Or safer training...as they’re implementing.
Whats the alternative? No workers compensation at all? Or safer training...as they’re implementing.
Whats the alternative? No workers compensation at all? Or safer training...as they’re implementing.
I only hope lawyers get hold of this guys testimony if/when we have an accident in Oz, "yes your honour, we let 200 people burn because we felt it was too dangerous to train our fierys". There is a compensation nightmare for you.
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3...2..1 Play Benny Hill music NOW!
I used to work in a 14 storey building. At lunch time some of us walked to the bottom and walked/jogged up several flights in the fire escape for fitness.
HR prohibited it because someone might get hurt and claim compo.
If you have ever worked in an Australian government department none of this nonsense will surprise you.
Sleep tight knowing some of your hard earned is paying their wages.
I used to work in a 14 storey building. At lunch time some of us walked to the bottom and walked/jogged up several flights in the fire escape for fitness.
HR prohibited it because someone might get hurt and claim compo.
If you have ever worked in an Australian government department none of this nonsense will surprise you.
Sleep tight knowing some of your hard earned is paying their wages.
Put some fall mats around the training ladder - climb 12 meter ladder.
Any that fall on the mat are removed from the service. The job is not for them, and they would not handle the real life event with no mats around.
* Why not have the fire saw as part of the kit - it makes you compliant, but you do not need to use it.
Any that fall on the mat are removed from the service. The job is not for them, and they would not handle the real life event with no mats around.
* Why not have the fire saw as part of the kit - it makes you compliant, but you do not need to use it.
Folks,
With all this talk of ladders, perhaps you have missed that the rescue saws have been banned as well.
Dangerous things saws, they can cut things??
And they bought lovely brand new ICAO compliant ones quite recently.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Strict compliance compliance with the law in NSW prohibits you climbing into the cab of most trucks --- the "roools" say you have to have steps up to a platform --- this pesky 2M again.
With all this talk of ladders, perhaps you have missed that the rescue saws have been banned as well.
Dangerous things saws, they can cut things??
And they bought lovely brand new ICAO compliant ones quite recently.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Strict compliance compliance with the law in NSW prohibits you climbing into the cab of most trucks --- the "roools" say you have to have steps up to a platform --- this pesky 2M again.
I just shared this epic piece in a group environment. I lost the plot and nearly choked on my martini with this gem:
’There are four skills to using a ladder. Getting on it, going up it, going down it and getting off it’
ONLY in Australia!!
’There are four skills to using a ladder. Getting on it, going up it, going down it and getting off it’
ONLY in Australia!!
short flights long nights
Aren’t fires dangerous? I mean, you can get burnt 🙄🙄
As a matter of interest, do you have to be signed off on all these ladder skills concurrently, or can they be "achieved" separately??
I just love "competency based" training.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Recently implementing a safety training introduction of a new forklift ---- Ear protection was mandatory, but so was the checking of the reversing horn during the "pre-flight" --- But what if I can't hear the horn for the ear protection ---- which "mandatory rule" (as, I suppose, non-optional rule) do I breach to "comply". Common sense is prohibited, because it cannot be regulated!!
Last edited by LeadSled; 24th Feb 2019 at 04:37. Reason: typo