Australia's national Qantas, tells staff to call Australia's settlement an "Invasion"
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Apart from Medicine, education, Health Care, land rights, money and flags, what have the British ever done for us!
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Hudson Fysh must be turning in his grave.
As an aside, as a founder of QF I would have suggested he was probably the last person I would have felt was entitled to do whatever he wanted with the company.
He died in 1974 leaving an estate of $95,000. Average house price in Sydney was then $28,000. Sir Hudson Fysh died with a net worth of 3.4 Sydney houses.
Average house price in Sydney today is $1.1m. Elaine therefore pocketed 22.7 average Sydney Houses in ONE YEAR!! That's aside from all the freebies he's getting - and QF would be paying for a LOT of his expenses in addition to this.
Where has Qf's money gone? Apart from an entire department to create utter mindless garbage that is the subject of this thread...
When booking a flight they ask for your title, the first four are Mr (good to see men are still in their rightful place of being listed first) Mrs, Miss and Ms, are we to be offended before even writing our name on a ticket because Qantas is categorising us from the start?
Plus, and probably more an aero club bar discussion, if you flew a charter to a conference of people born with male genitalia but identified as female and booked their tickets as such. Using standard passenger weights, the aircraft could easily be a couple of ton overweight if they use all female weights rather than male weights.
Plus, and probably more an aero club bar discussion, if you flew a charter to a conference of people born with male genitalia but identified as female and booked their tickets as such. Using standard passenger weights, the aircraft could easily be a couple of ton overweight if they use all female weights rather than male weights.
The word invasion is freely used in discussing white settlement of the country, but a reading of the orders given Governor Phillips shows the intent.
The only criticism to make I think is the belief that you can move into anothers piece of turf and not expect blowback.
A question to AJ, is the word "mate" still OK? I mean, it does have sexual connotations. I'm a husband, father, grandfather, and "Poppy" to the little ones. Shove it AJ.
You are to endeavour by every possible means to open an Intercourse with the Natives and to conciliate their affections, enjoining all Our Subjects to live in amity and kindness with them. And if any of Our Subjects shall wantonly destroy them, or give them any unnecessary Interruption in the exercise of their several occupations. It is our Will and Pleasure that you do cause such offenders to be brought to punishment according to the degree of the Offence. You will endeavour to procure an account of the Numbers inhabiting the Neighbourhood of the intended settlement and report your opinion to one of our Secretaries of State in what manner Our Intercourse with these people may be turned to the advantage of this country.
A question to AJ, is the word "mate" still OK? I mean, it does have sexual connotations. I'm a husband, father, grandfather, and "Poppy" to the little ones. Shove it AJ.
Where has Qf's money gone?
Reservations move to South Africa, when there's a flight change they send a text message advising the pax to call back, the wait time can be in excess of 3 hours and in the meantime some pax have left home to catch the flight that may have been canceled but that's OK, as reservations has 'attempted' to make contact with you.
What a joke, maybe senior management should be outsourced.
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“In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G.Orwell
Just when you think it hit peak stupid, along comes Mr Joyce and surprises us all! Just run an airline, you know flying people,bags and freight expeditiously and safely from A to B..
Just when you think it hit peak stupid, along comes Mr Joyce and surprises us all! Just run an airline, you know flying people,bags and freight expeditiously and safely from A to B..
MostlyTossas : D Day was an invasion. Japan invaded the Malay peninsular. As did the Normans in 1066 against the poms. This is achieved by one apposing army challenging another with the winner taking control.
The first fleet was not an army be it that they had some soldiers as protection and to keep control of the convicts. They were essentially squatters. They came and helped themselves to the land. Yes there were some uprisings and in some areas there were not. Australia was not settled on Australia day. Only Sydney cove was. The rest of the country was settled over the next 100 years,bit by bit.
There was no Aboriginal nation, but a vast network of individual tribes all across the continent many who never knew many of the others existence.
Unfortunatley for the indigenous population this was always going to happen sooner or later as it did all around the globe. Imagine if it was the Japs that got here first.
... if the Bombing of Darwin & attempted invasion in June 1942 succeeded ...or Dutch; French or Portugese who were already in the area in the late 1700's too.
I was going to reply along your lines but you say it well. That's what pisses me off about the latte-sipping city slickers trend of using the Yanks label of "First Nation" here for the Aboriginals. There never was "a Nation". It's very hard to discuss any history with the millennials or latter generations as many never learnt it in the first place or they had a re-written socialist "alternative" view pushed in front of them in school/Uni.
QF... you've overstepped yet again and solidify why I & many others haven't flown with you for decades and never will.
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With the most fuel inefficient fleet flying the Pacific and JQ again being re-equipped despite its substantially younger fleet age, Mr Joyce sighed a breath of relief for along came Lesley, everyone's favourite 'culture' leader!
Oh wake the hell up, over 200 years of the British Empire and they forced their way into most of the world, China, India, South East Asia, Australia, North America, Africa, the Middle East and they raped every place they went to and were unceremoniously kicked out in the end.
You can say alot about the Brits but in terms of their colonies on whole they did more good than harm. Rule of law. Right to a fair trial. Freedom of movement, freedom of speech. And believe it or not they were actually reasonably successful in their recidivism rates.
Bash them if you want but when look you at the alternatives available with the benefit of hindsight personally I think they did a pretty damn good job all things considered.
It is not only Lesley at Qantas that is introducing this crap. It is being driven by the Diversity Council of Australia headed by David Morrison. He was Chief of Army and in his latter years took up the lgb etc cause with vigor. Which led him to being named Australian of the year (shows this award is utterly meaningless). His main contribution to the army as far as I can see is allowing the rainbow flag to be combined with the rising sun badge. All this virtue signalling did however nicely set him up for his current gig.
Lesley and indeed David and the others that push this crap are of course idiots. They are useful idiots to the Marxist agenda and subversive, destructive idiots to those of us with a brain who can see this crap for what it is.
With regards to the timing of the Qantas announcement, and with a member of the lgb blah blah community as CEO, it is perplexing. After years of struggle the lgb... community finally got the legal right to marry and therefore become wives and husbands. Only a few months later and Qantas wants to remove that (the ability to actually be called husband or wife) from them because apparently some of them or is it those who identify as inanimate objects like fruit cakes, might be offended. You couldn't make this stuff up..
And we won't mention Qantas's real commitment to the lgb...community. The deal with Emirates says all we need to know. Perhaps Mr Joyce should re locate to the UAE and carry on his lifestyle there..
Lesley and indeed David and the others that push this crap are of course idiots. They are useful idiots to the Marxist agenda and subversive, destructive idiots to those of us with a brain who can see this crap for what it is.
With regards to the timing of the Qantas announcement, and with a member of the lgb blah blah community as CEO, it is perplexing. After years of struggle the lgb... community finally got the legal right to marry and therefore become wives and husbands. Only a few months later and Qantas wants to remove that (the ability to actually be called husband or wife) from them because apparently some of them or is it those who identify as inanimate objects like fruit cakes, might be offended. You couldn't make this stuff up..
And we won't mention Qantas's real commitment to the lgb...community. The deal with Emirates says all we need to know. Perhaps Mr Joyce should re locate to the UAE and carry on his lifestyle there..
When booking a flight they ask for your title, the first four are Mr (good to see men are still in their rightful place of being listed first) Mrs, Miss and Ms, are we to be offended before even writing our name on a ticket because Qantas is categorising us from the start?
I really am surprised, I would have thought Qantas would have not been so far behind the times (but looking at the geriatric fleet, maybe I should have expected it) in not using the latest style guide ultimate collective Mx.
Mx covers the whole gender spectrum of 11/23/52** "genders" in this day and age (allegedly) of "gender fluidity".
My wife/partner/spouse/She who must be obeyed and I have both been receiving, collectively and individually, mail addressed to Mx. One is even addressed to Mx. and Mx. xxxxxx.
Ain't the influence of the LGBTIQUASSGF community a wondrous thing??
Tootle pip!!
** Depending on which Sydney university web site you look at, with the middle number close to recent Canadian government legislation.
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Abbott could have added "..and delete People and Culture Group, to let managers manage...and the Whores of Christendom go back to doing what they do best."
edit to upper case "W"
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Wednesday SYD time. QF crisis +3 days? I was told they like a good crisis - I'm missing the non gender specific Angels
QF pays enough for them for god's sake - where are they with such important matters as this to defend??
QF pays enough for them for god's sake - where are they with such important matters as this to defend??
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Probably preparing the Friday Flyer to defend the indefensible.
We are talking about left/green huggy-fluffy’s - they don’t ‘do’ personal responsibility. Someone else is always to blame and must pay them more.
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Why is Lesley Grant and her kin even earning a salary in Australia.
Such useless unproductive staff are a burden on Australian businesses and the Australian economy IMHO.
Go get yourself a 'real productive' job.
Too many useless, expensive and unproductive middle managers, or other pointless positions in companies now days.
Such useless unproductive staff are a burden on Australian businesses and the Australian economy IMHO.
Go get yourself a 'real productive' job.
Too many useless, expensive and unproductive middle managers, or other pointless positions in companies now days.
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Why don't all those who believe that Australia was invaded renounce their citizenship and attempt to return to wherever it was their ancestors came from?
And many Australians were involuntarily dispatched from the Mother Country a couple of centuries ago with strict instructions never to return. If the descendants of these first white Australians were to return to the land of their forebears Australia would experience a massive shortage of politicians and other charlatans!!