Reputation of Aussie pilots overseas
In terms of the strict liability law, if you took off with the GW indicting over the MTOW of the aircraft, you would be guilty. I do not believe the ‘reasonable mistake of fact’ defence would not cut it in those circumstances.
There are times when breaking the rules are acceptable, but it is not to try and take off 200kgs overweight according to a GW indicator, nor to accept a landing a few knots outside the certified limits of an aircaft’s limits, particularly when there are other options. Being safe, being legal and being practical may not always give you the same outcome, but there is always a right choice.
There are times when breaking the rules are acceptable, but it is not to try and take off 200kgs overweight according to a GW indicator, nor to accept a landing a few knots outside the certified limits of an aircaft’s limits, particularly when there are other options. Being safe, being legal and being practical may not always give you the same outcome, but there is always a right choice.
I am not one for breaking rules, real rules, not ones that have been made up. There is no rule that says an aircraft must have the weight displayed in real time in the cockpit, let alone wait for that value to drop to a magic number before takeoff, or an aircraft cannot commence an approach if the reported tower wind exceeds the tailwind limit.
We have all flown with people with different personal standards that they apply above the regulatory minimum, what this thread in essence is about is people who project their personal standards onto others and pass them off are being the rule when in fact they are just another persons opinion.
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Trouble with the Australian's I've had to fly with is, they seem to want to reinvent the wheel. It's all been down before by proper pilots decades ago. Tried to tell them, if it ain't broken then don't fix it. Keep it simple! Complicate thinks and people screw up. KIS!!!
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Trouble with the Australian's I've had to fly with is, they seem to want to reinvent the wheel. It's all been down before by proper pilots decades ago. Tried to tell them, if it ain't broken then don't fix it. Keep it simple! Complicate thinks and people screw up. KIS!!!
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I was a young F/O in an expat airline in the early 90’s and flew with ex-89-dispute skippers. It was the most fun flying I’ve ever had. These skippers took us newbies under their wings and stood up for us no matter what. Later I was jet-trained and checked by ex-AN skippers, one of which is still the best instructor I’ve ever had. Fast forward, and the roles are now reversed, with me doing the training, often of ex-QF F/Os. Every single one, without exception, has been a pleasure to fly with, selected and trained by a QF training department that obviously got it ‘right’.
Don’t drag an entire community down by how a few misguided individuals behaved way back when.
Don’t drag an entire community down by how a few misguided individuals behaved way back when.
The most delightful, professional pilot I ever flew with was from Addis. In the middle of a crew room group of inebriated, and appropriately noisy Aussies, this man entered once, and the Aussies who knew him from prior airlines fawned over him; he was that sort of person. The same program had pilots from some 90 countries, and they varied in their skills, and character, but they generally did a job. Flying with one or the other wasn't so very different, except for the occasional person who would have stood out in any program, for better or worse. Of these, the distribution was pretty much random. That operation was in a location where the book "Cultures Consequences" and it's riveting sequel was appropriate reading.
There is more that we have in common than we are usually prepared to admit.
As a group, tossing the holy hand grenade of Antioch at the group that you have a grievance with is hardly good CRM or consistent with achieving harmonious flight decks. Aussies can be a PITA, just like every other nationality on the planet.
There is more that we have in common than we are usually prepared to admit.
As a group, tossing the holy hand grenade of Antioch at the group that you have a grievance with is hardly good CRM or consistent with achieving harmonious flight decks. Aussies can be a PITA, just like every other nationality on the planet.
Your post proves both the remarkable nature of Aussies, and the importance of punctuation.