MH 122 Syd KL diverted to Alice Springs due to "Technical Issues"
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MH 122 Syd KL diverted to Alice Springs due to "Technical Issues"
Reports on Australian ABC24 that MH122 Syd to KL diverted to Alice Springs for technical reasons.
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Quoting the West Australian newspaper:-
While the above is sure to elicit cries of woe over standards of aviation journalism, the truly frightening thing is that it actually and accurately reflects the current standard of ALL newspaper journalism.
Flight MH122 was above Derby in remote WA when the pilot made the decision to land due to “technical reasons”, the airline said.
Passengers on board the flight, which departed Sydney at 1.35pm local time have told of their terror, taking to social media to tell how the plane’s crew were “preparing to crash”.
Passengers on board the flight, which departed Sydney at 1.35pm local time have told of their terror, taking to social media to tell how the plane’s crew were “preparing to crash”.
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From the ATC tapes linked above, MH122 declared a PAN on descent into ASP.
Here's the classic 'I hoid a bang and I knew we wuz gonna die!' news coverage:
Malaysia Airlines flight MH122 to Kuala Lumpur forced to divert to Alice Springs - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
https://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-alice-springs
Here's the classic 'I hoid a bang and I knew we wuz gonna die!' news coverage:
The husband of a passenger onboard a Malaysia Airlines flight forced to divert to Alice Springs says his wife has described the experience as "hell".
Flight MH122 was travelling from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur with 224 passengers onboard this afternoon when one of the Airbus A330-300 plane's engines is believed to have been shut down.
Chin Kanani said his wife became alarmed when she heard a banging sound.
"She said she was on the loo when she started hearing loud banging noises from the right-hand side of the plane and that's when all it started," Mr Kanani said.
"It was like hell this flight and they were told to be ready for an emergency landing."
Flight MH122 was travelling from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur with 224 passengers onboard this afternoon when one of the Airbus A330-300 plane's engines is believed to have been shut down.
Chin Kanani said his wife became alarmed when she heard a banging sound.
"She said she was on the loo when she started hearing loud banging noises from the right-hand side of the plane and that's when all it started," Mr Kanani said.
"It was like hell this flight and they were told to be ready for an emergency landing."
‘Brace for impact’: Passengers terrified as Malaysia Airlines flight makes emergency landing in Alice Springs
By Sean Davidson
10:28pm Jan 18, 2018
A terrified passenger has told of how she "thought she was going to die" after crew on board a Malaysia Airlines flight told passengers to brace for impact when the plane started vibrating.
Flight MH122, an Airbus A330 heading to Kuala Lumpur from Sydney, was four hours into the flight when a "massive vibration" rocked the plane, forcing it to divert to Alice Springs.
"The lights had just been turned off and everyone was settled in," Donna Edwards, who was travelling to London, told 9news.com.au.
"All of sudden a massive vibration, the whole plane was shaking."
Ms Edwards said passengers were holding hands and bracing for 30 minutes before the crew announced everyone should "brace for impact".
"The fight attendant came on and said the pilot will give a 30-second warning before impact," she said.
"One of the crew stopped near us and one guy said ‘are we crashing or are we landing’.
"The crew member said 'I don't know'.
“We were just bracing for the worst. I thought I was going to die.
"But then 30 minutes later the crew said it was under control."
By Sean Davidson
10:28pm Jan 18, 2018
A terrified passenger has told of how she "thought she was going to die" after crew on board a Malaysia Airlines flight told passengers to brace for impact when the plane started vibrating.
Flight MH122, an Airbus A330 heading to Kuala Lumpur from Sydney, was four hours into the flight when a "massive vibration" rocked the plane, forcing it to divert to Alice Springs.
"The lights had just been turned off and everyone was settled in," Donna Edwards, who was travelling to London, told 9news.com.au.
"All of sudden a massive vibration, the whole plane was shaking."
Ms Edwards said passengers were holding hands and bracing for 30 minutes before the crew announced everyone should "brace for impact".
"The fight attendant came on and said the pilot will give a 30-second warning before impact," she said.
"One of the crew stopped near us and one guy said ‘are we crashing or are we landing’.
"The crew member said 'I don't know'.
“We were just bracing for the worst. I thought I was going to die.
"But then 30 minutes later the crew said it was under control."
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A Twitter report from a pax:
The pilots were probably busy shutting down the engine, assessing the situation and evaluating options.
A timely update like Captain Eric Moody's classic PA would be helpful though:
Sanjeev Pandey
@sppandey81
1 hour ago
#malaysian airlines #mh122. Emergency landing at Alice Springs. The scariest part was that once the engine started to make a loud disturbing noise, the flight attendants all seemed nervous n clueless. For around 15 mins, there was no announcement.15 mins were as long as 15 hours!
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#malaysian airlines #mh122. Emergency landing at Alice Springs. The scariest part was that once the engine started to make a loud disturbing noise, the flight attendants all seemed nervous n clueless. For around 15 mins, there was no announcement.15 mins were as long as 15 hours!
A timely update like Captain Eric Moody's classic PA would be helpful though:
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.
Darwin would on the face of it seem the better initial option
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Derby - Alice ~694nm
Derby - Darwin ~ 516nm
Monsoon season so DRW weather might have been not so good.
I wonder why Broome was discounted?
No pan call until near ASP. Looks like they were heading for MEL and then reality hit. Broome was 100 miles from point of diversion. Why were pax told to brace for impact at FL300 ?
Trust me, as SFL, having an engine go bang is no fun. Happened to me, SAS B767 climbing out from Beijing. The aircraft was shaking so bad I expected my fillings to drop out. Then again you, as pax, have no clue what's going on and I fully expected a close encounter with the ragged mountains just below us.
On top of that they would not serve me another whisky while returning to land. Business class and all.
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On top of that they would not serve me another whisky while returning to land. Business class and all.
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Monsoon season so DRW weather might have been not so good.
However all of central Australia virtually cloud free.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.
Should be on all command courses. I found there was so little guidance of suitable PA's in NNC's. Given the young age of some who might have to make one..........some help to keep the situation calm 'back there' IMHO is most welcome.
I'm not familiar with this region, or the airports they chose, but, as a generalism, the closest suitable may not be the nearest; in that, by the time you've completed your analysis, executed a checklist or 2, decided where to go reference weather and facilities and LDA, dug out the charts, planned the descent & approach, briefed all who need to be, you might have used up more time than a normal 20-25 minute descent. I hear some people say that you should drop into the airfield nearest underneath you, but if you do and then spend 10 mins holding, to finish up, you could have gone further to a more familiar/convenient/suitable airport with a full defence in place: it might even be your departure airport.
Should be on all command courses. I found there was so little guidance of suitable PA's in NNC's. Given the young age of some who might have to make one..........some help to keep the situation calm 'back there' IMHO is most welcome.
I'm not familiar with this region, or the airports they chose, but, as a generalism, the closest suitable may not be the nearest; in that, by the time you've completed your analysis, executed a checklist or 2, decided where to go reference weather and facilities and LDA, dug out the charts, planned the descent & approach, briefed all who need to be, you might have used up more time than a normal 20-25 minute descent. I hear some people say that you should drop into the airfield nearest underneath you, but if you do and then spend 10 mins holding, to finish up, you could have gone further to a more familiar/convenient/suitable airport with a full defence in place: it might even be your departure airport.
Exactly.
I think it's because the PPRune experts have determined so. The evidence supporting this, however, is rather scant.
Same same the nonsense above re bracing at FL300. Evidence? Oh, a media report about what passenger said. Must be fact then. PPRune has spoken. Not even 24 hours later.
Troubling, isn't it?
As for AS vs DN: I haven't even bothered to check old TAF's but can almost guarantee there would have been TS all over DN. Sounds like AS was a very smart choice by a couple of PROFESSIONAL pilots flying a twin with OEI.
I think it's because the PPRune experts have determined so. The evidence supporting this, however, is rather scant.
Same same the nonsense above re bracing at FL300. Evidence? Oh, a media report about what passenger said. Must be fact then. PPRune has spoken. Not even 24 hours later.
Troubling, isn't it?
As for AS vs DN: I haven't even bothered to check old TAF's but can almost guarantee there would have been TS all over DN. Sounds like AS was a very smart choice by a couple of PROFESSIONAL pilots flying a twin with OEI.
+lots to many of the above comments.
Broome may not have been an authorised airfield for the type involved..we fly over that part of the world in a big twin and it is certainly not authorised for us...(and yes, I know that consideration goes out of the window if the fit has definitely hit the san such as a fire and/or smoke.), Darwin is a way off and may have had weather issues....The Alice OTOH may have been the best fit given circumstances (which we won’t get from flight radar and/or the Twitter sphere).
Broome may not have been an authorised airfield for the type involved..we fly over that part of the world in a big twin and it is certainly not authorised for us...(and yes, I know that consideration goes out of the window if the fit has definitely hit the san such as a fire and/or smoke.), Darwin is a way off and may have had weather issues....The Alice OTOH may have been the best fit given circumstances (which we won’t get from flight radar and/or the Twitter sphere).
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them going again. I trust you are not in too much distress.
Should be on all command courses. I found there was so little guidance of suitable PA's in NNC's. Given the young age of some who might have to make one..........some help to keep the situation calm 'back there' IMHO is most welcome.
I'm not familiar with this region, or the airports they chose, but, as a generalism, the closest suitable may not be the nearest; in that, by the time you've completed your analysis, executed a checklist or 2, decided where to go reference weather and facilities and LDA, dug out the charts, planned the descent & approach, briefed all who need to be, you might have used up more time than a normal 20-25 minute descent. I hear some people say that you should drop into the airfield nearest underneath you, but if you do and then spend 10 mins holding, to finish up, you could have gone further to a more familiar/convenient/suitable airport with a full defence in place: it might even be your departure airport.
Should be on all command courses. I found there was so little guidance of suitable PA's in NNC's. Given the young age of some who might have to make one..........some help to keep the situation calm 'back there' IMHO is most welcome.
I'm not familiar with this region, or the airports they chose, but, as a generalism, the closest suitable may not be the nearest; in that, by the time you've completed your analysis, executed a checklist or 2, decided where to go reference weather and facilities and LDA, dug out the charts, planned the descent & approach, briefed all who need to be, you might have used up more time than a normal 20-25 minute descent. I hear some people say that you should drop into the airfield nearest underneath you, but if you do and then spend 10 mins holding, to finish up, you could have gone further to a more familiar/convenient/suitable airport with a full defence in place: it might even be your departure airport.