Jetconnect ZK aircraft to now be VH registered

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Inefficiency compounded by no ZK/VH aircraft cross-crewing by Jetconnect crews. One or the other depending on whether they’ve ticked those boxes for CASA

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Low Pass wrote :


Sorry to sound facetious, but , really.

Reminds me of the chorus from one of Midnight Oils hits :

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Well PB/ Virgin NZ and AirNZ have full protection of the NZ based flying. I dunno but maybe JC union should have secured that years ago

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Originally Posted by Keg

I heard a rumour that Jetconnect pilots aren’t flying too many hours at the moment and with increased A330 services on the Tasman there’s lots on inefficient patterns and lots of paxing? Anyone confirm?

Yes the crew that have gone across onto the QF AOC are paxing more then operating. With flight hours as low as 25-30hours for the roster.

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Originally Posted by Keg

I heard a rumour that Jetconnect pilots aren’t flying too many hours at the moment and with increased A330 services on the Tasman there’s lots on inefficient patterns and lots of paxing? Anyone confirm?

Confirmed, although the paxing is expected to decrease once everyone's over to the QF side of the fence. 50/50 split between ZK and VH crew, and you can't fly both. Should be 100% by mid November, when the JC AOC will cease to be.

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So how long until jetconnect crew are doing more than just the tasman?

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At least until they comply with Australian workplace law. They may be permitted to operate domestically within Australia under CASA regs but I suspect the FWC would take a very dim view of them operating domestically whilst on different terms and conditions to that which applies to Australian crew.

Of course were they to be subject to the Qantas SH EA then there’d be no restrictions on them operating domestically. I’m sure the JC crew would love the pay rise and better conditions. Of course there’d be knock on effects that they may not like also.

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Originally Posted by Captain Fun

So how long until jetconnect crew are doing more than just the tasman?

Capt Fun,

The AIPA should be looking at the Jetstar model. Both the Australian and the New Zealand operations are run on the same AOC, but with 2 seperate EBAs, as the QF mainline and Jetconnect operation will run. JQ New Zealand tech crew cannot operate domestically in Australia. Australian Pilots can operate on the Tasman and domestically in New Zealand. Some New Zealand Pilots flew in Australia as part of their command upgrade training a little while ago, however they had to be temporarily employed on the JQ Aus EBA. I believe that this caused more trouble than it was worth for the company and that the training captains are now sent to NZ instead.

If the Jetstar unions can protect Aus domestic flying, surely the AIPA can protect QANTAS’.

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Originally Posted by bobbelmore

How about circa 1965-66? They were called "instant captains". Most of them were a disaster. Some of them didn't make it to captain and became permanent F/Os and some left the company to get a job as captain elsewhere.

Seniority is not a really good way to select who gets promoted but it sure as hell beats all the other alternatives.

Disaster it certainly was --- with some honourable exceptions, Qantas got the rest of the industry's misfits, floaters and "strange" Captains.
As for the "theory" that created the "need" ( it was not a pilot shortage or lack of experienced F/Os) -- the less said the better.
At least it resulted in a revolution in Flight Training, a complete turnover of "management".
Tootle pip!!

PS: Prior to "seniority" in the old QF, promotion was determined by "which Squadron/Ship/Golf Club/Sailing Club" was on your CV.