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Strange Flight GoldCoast This Afternoon

Old 20th Jul 2017, 09:05
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Strange Flight GoldCoast This Afternoon

Sounds a bit crazy... But whilst hanging out the washing....

Gold Coast: 5:10pm in Arundel - A Brown/Orange plane (jet), was heading NorWest'ish very low and making no sound. I'd guess it's height would have been no more than 1k at most. Looked like a normal small bodied jet (sort of size that flies from BNE to MEL/SYD). But certainly it was a Brown/Orange colour. No standout tail image that I could see.

In my 10 years here I have never seen a plane heading that way. We have the Southport airport close by and see many regular flights of 152's etc and the helicopters etc...
Which made me wonder about these aircraft, as they normally take off and land with a South/North direction.

I said to the missus "That's strange...". I went inside to find the iPhone and back outside watching this plane heading in to the setting sun, I opened up Plane Finder and this aircraft didn't show up.

Various other planes were up, Virgin, Q and so on. But not this plane...

Anyone have a guess as to what it was?
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 11:00
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This mob?

Or was AirAsia lost again?

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Old 20th Jul 2017, 11:29
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yeah, i saw it too near Jimboomba flying low and slow, quiet as not climbing. Not an E Jet. Widebody, underwing engines, winglets, suspect things hanging from wings outboard of engines (view thru trees), heading towards Amberley. My guess MRTT (Multi role Tanker Transport), Airbus A330 converted to refueling aircraft, looking orange in setting sun.

Checked flightradar24 and it didn't show, hinting it is military aircraft.

The shape of the winglets was most A330 like.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 12:52
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The USAF KC10's are operating out of BN at the moment so it could have been one of them. They don't normally show up on FR24. If you want to see the aircraft that don't appear on FR24 go to the South East QLD radar page.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 14:01
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It was indeed a RAAF A330 tanker. Nothing else. And yes, it looked superb in the sunset. (Definitely wasn't on Flight Radar ADSB either).

Case closed.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 20:27
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Nice to know about that page BPA. Have set it in favs.

I assume you are correct FS.
But why wouldn't it have a transponder operating even if it's military (ie: not war time event), and flying through/over residential areas

Well, i'm glad that's cleared up. The missus was doing the Twilight Zone jingle for hours taking the mickey out of me..
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 23:20
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Nice to know about that page BPA. Have set it in favs.

I assume you are correct FS.
But why wouldn't it have a transponder operating even if it's military (ie: not war time event), and flying through/over residential areas

Well, i'm glad that's cleared up. The missus was doing the Twilight Zone jingle for hours taking the mickey out of me..

They do have their transponder on, however they block/turn off the ADBS function which is what FR24 needs to pick them up. Some bizjets do the same.
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Old 20th Jul 2017, 23:25
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Originally Posted by Obba View Post

I assume you are correct FS.
But why wouldn't it have a transponder operating even if it's military (ie: not war time event), and flying through/over residential areas
Flightradar uses ADS-B not transponders. Not sure about RAAF policy. The BBJs used to show up with their callsigns, now just says 737. Hercs, C-17s say type, the King Airs and Spartans often say callsign and I have seen KC-30s on it.
Could just be that flying so low no ADS-B receiver could see as its line of sight.
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Old 21st Jul 2017, 03:34
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"South East QLD radar page".

I can't find a link for this reference above, any tips ?
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Old 21st Jul 2017, 03:37
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Flight Data for South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales
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Old 21st Jul 2017, 13:47
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Originally Posted by Ejector View Post
"South East QLD radar page".

I can't find a link for this reference above, any tips ?
try seqldradar.net
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 03:25
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Originally Posted by patty50 View Post
Flightradar uses ADS-B not transponders. Not sure about RAAF policy. The BBJs used to show up with their callsigns, now just says 737. Hercs, C-17s say type, the King Airs and Spartans often say callsign and I have seen KC-30s on it.
Could just be that flying so low no ADS-B receiver could see as its line of sight.
You'll never see combat aircraft on anything for obvious reasons but most of the other RAAF planes including the BBJs and the tankers do transmit ADSB in civilian airspace but are now blocked by the owners of FR24 - same as most corporate jets. Some can be seen on Flight Aware and nearly all of them on SEQ radar as someone else has mentioned. SEQ only has a range of about 200km around BNE but you can see a lot on it if your quarry happens to be in that area.
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 15:23
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There was a P8 Poseidon tooling round Melbourne earlier this week at FL130 and full ADS-B telemetry was being broadcast on this and other times I have noticed it. Training maybe?
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Old 22nd Jul 2017, 22:15
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A number of corporate jets don't have ADS-B.
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