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Old 17th Mar 2017, 07:17
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Top marks to the REX flight crew.

ABC news are reporting a man on on the flight deck advised ATC of the problem!
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 07:34
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Capt and first officer pay will now be docked until the full cost of the missing propeller can be recovered.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 08:10
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good job on the crew and lucky it was the RH prop too...

15 pax barely pays the bills methinks..
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 08:20
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Counseling immediately after a trauma has been shown to lead to poor mental health outcomes.

Now back to the incident.

How come the propeller and environs went under he wing, rather than shearing the wing or going over it with possible damage to the frame or tail?
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 08:26
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A spokesman for the Civil Aviation Safety Authority confirmed that the plane's right-hand propeller "came dislodged" about 10 nautical miles from Sydney Airport, and the plane declared a PAN emergency before it proceeded on to land safely.

Twin-engine planes can land safely on one propeller.
The wheels are a better option.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 08:32
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Originally Posted by garpal gumnut View Post
How come the propeller and environs went under he wing, rather than shearing the wing or going over it with possible damage to the frame or tail?
May have been poetic license, but the TV news showed it going over the wing and almost impacting the tail.






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Old 17th Mar 2017, 08:47
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Great to hear there was a safe landing. Good job.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:14
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From the SMH -

"Distraught passengers....offered counseling...."

Was there more to it than a successful single engine (prop) landing?
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:36
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Quote from news.com.au Rex aircraft propeller fell off mid flight: Plane forced to land at Sydney airport


"Grahame Hutchison, an aviation photographer, snapped pictures of the stricken plane at Sydney Airport as it was towed from the terminal after its passengers disembarked.
He told news.com.au the pilots should be commended for staying calm under pressure.
“I would imagine for the passengers it would be a fairly frightening experience so hats off to pilots, they’ve done a great job.”
He said it was rare to see such damage.
“That’s the first time I’ve seen an aircraft with one propeller."

This guy needs to get out more often! LOL
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:37
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Freed of the burden of dragging the aircraft through the air the propellor probably accelerated ahead of the a/c in a graceful descending arc. Not unknown with previous propellor separations.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:52
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I just hate it when a prop falls off. It means you're gonna be late again.

No doubt gonna be some serious engineering investigation there, and some awkward questions asked about the last engine inspection.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:53
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Via Delta kilo:"Distraught passengers....offered counseling...."

Was there more to it than a successful single engine (prop) landing?
I think "offered counselling" is what's done for any event nowadays.

I'd reckon that fire ball King Air prang a few weeks back were probably fresh in the mind of many pax.




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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:56
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Originally Posted by onetrack View Post
I just hate it when a prop falls off. It means you're gonna be late again.

No doubt gonna be some serious engineering investigation there, and some awkward questions asked about the last engine inspection.
Yes onetrack, my thoughts go out to the maintenance crew.
Their sphincters would be working overtime.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 09:59
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That makes much sense.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:14
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I saw the remains of the US Navy P-3 at Cocos that shed a prop.....unfortunately, it did not follow said 'graceful descending arc'.

Instead, it went thru the fuselage and impacted fatally with a crew member sitting adjacent to it.

The aircraft subsequently ditched into the lagoon.....for another 'associated' reason.

Thread drift....back to REX...
(Sic'em Rex)
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:23
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US Navy P-3? If you're going to go off topic Griffo, get it right please. RAAF P3, A9-754, resulting in the tragic death of FLGOFF Tom Henniker.

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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:28
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Maybe a bit lucky it didn't come through the cabin too ...
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:30
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They normally go outwards and forward by my experience.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:36
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Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO View Post
I saw the remains of the US Navy P-3 at Cocos that shed a prop.....unfortunately, it did not follow said 'graceful descending arc'.

Instead, it went thru the fuselage and impacted fatally with a crew member sitting adjacent to it.

The aircraft subsequently ditched into the lagoon.....for another 'associated' reason.

Thread drift....back to REX...
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US NAVY! Get your facts right.

It was a RAAF P3-C.

And it wasn't the prop leaving the aircraft that caused it to crash, it was a distinct lack of leading edges rendering the aircraft unflyable. Totally unrelated to propellor issues.

When the aircraft ditched, with all four props producing 100% thrust, they impacted the water/reef. All four props departed up and right. Unfortunately No 2 impacted the fuselage after departing and killed the crewmember who happened to be in his ditching station where the prop breached the fuselage.

If you don't have any idea what happened Griffo then don't comment. Unless you're a journo now, in which case just make up whatever you like.
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 10:36
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Below screenshot from FR24 playback just as they leveled off at 8000 - the liveatc audio seems to suggest the prop separated around here somewhere (controller asks would they like to maintain 8000 or continue descent).




Also... this AD would seem to be relevant? https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/FR...nt-detail.html and http://services.casa.gov.au/airworth...t7/CT7-006.pdf
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