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Old 21st Mar 2017, 11:59
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This "Incident" will be punching a hole in their pax uplift figs . .

Looking at their flights tomorrow on their top city pairs
SYD - Albury/Wagga/Dubbo and Orange and reading between the lines.
It looks like they are cancelling/consolidating flights to me.

REALLY - Who would fly on their 340’s now, unless they absolutely had to - after this.
Another 340 of similar age/cycles may encounter the same thing.

Why tempt fate.

Prior to CASA report is released.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:02
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton
This "Incident" will be punching a hole in their pax uplift figs . .

Looking at their flights tomorrow on their top city pairs
SYD - Albury/Wagga/Dubbo and Orange and reading between the lines.
It looks like they are cancelling/consolidating flights to me.

REALLY - Who would fly on their 340ís now, unless they absolutely had to - after this.
Another 340 of similar age/cycles may encounter the same thing.

Why tempt fate.

Prior to CASA report is released.
Yeah, I'm going to stop driving my car too. Lots of fatal crashes. Why temp fate?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:06
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Tim, you are a troll on hotcopper as the 'yoda of lithium' and a troll here.

I seriously doubt any of your claims to be a commercial pilot on either forum.

You are dealing with people's careers and reputations - from all we currently know the crew did a professional job under pressure and your ill informed sniping as a keyboard warrior expert is way out of line.

At least Ben Sandilands was a mensch and corrected himself and apologised. That says at least something.

You however are just trolling here like you do on other forums because you thrive on being controversial. Enough.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:08
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It looks like they are cancelling/consolidating flights to me.
wouldn't have anything to do with having 10% of the fleet grounded for checks..... nah probably not.

For all their faults they are dealing with one of those good old "unknown unknowns" as best they can, kudos to the guys in the front.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:09
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Spinex, thanks but no thanks. I've read enough (well, too much actually) of old mates nonsensical crud in this thread already, no point looking for more! I've got other things to keep me better entertained.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:11
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Tim with no due respect!

This is an engine issue not an airframe issue. The engines get overhauled and also changed often.

This engine could be as little as a few months old - I don't know, do you?

You would really look more of a fool if this was actually a brand new engine 9 days old (since fitment) with a total time of 22.3 hours.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:31
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Just been looking at REX's financials. From a semi layman’s view - they don’t look great. Check for yourself on the ASX code REX

Sure however they are spending the money they need, to keep their ageing 340's in tip top condition.

I wouldn’t be surprised if VA or QF are waiting in the wings to snap up.

To recapitalise a new feeder fleet, for their mainline networks.

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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:37
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton
Just been looking at REX's financials. From a semi laymanís view - they donít look great. Check for yourself on the ASX code REX

Sure however they are spending the money they need, to keep their ageing 340's in tip top condition.

I wouldnít be surprised if VA or QF are waiting in the wings to snap up.

To recapitalise with a new feeder fleet, to their mainline networks.
Semi layman? You don't mean semi literate do you?
Full time troll for sure.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:51
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton
Just been looking at REX's financials. From a semi laymanís view - they donít look great. Check for yourself on the ASX code REX

Sure however they are spending the money they need, to keep their ageing 340's in tip top condition.

I wouldnít be surprised if VA or QF are waiting in the wings to snap up.

To recapitalise with a new feeder fleet, to their mainline networks.


Since you looked, can you confirm the amounts of political donations to Labor and Liberal party's?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 13:00
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Rex Net Profit in Millions -

2007 23.1
2008 24.3
2009 23.0
2010 24.6
2011 17.6
2012 25.5
2013 14.0
2014 7.7
2015 6.7
2016 -9.6


Source - Westpac Online Investing
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 13:58
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So new engines were/will fitted to all aircraft from 2013 till 2018?

Sauce - Mint, but chilli says that is less minus profits than most airlines over same years - even Qantas from memory (just lazy to post the same years). Dam Qantas mad a good profit last year for a change!!!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:35
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Originally Posted by Tim Hamilton
The less time you sped in the air in a damaged aircraft - is vital !
Shortest time in the air? Try a vertical dive!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 22:54
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Originally Posted by Raptor090
You are right, he is not a pilot and he is not a professional in anything he does!
Professional Troll & F*wit maybe?
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You are right, he is not a pilot and he is not a professional in anything he does!
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 01:03
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Maybe it's more a case of someone who's not quite playing with a full deck, but craving attention. The kindest option might be to just ignore him.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 01:24
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Getting back on thread - aside from a big bang and sudden yaw - can anyone explain what the immediate signs on the flight deck might be that a prop had departed a turboprop engine?
Would you notice a sudden jump in N1 and N2 speed on the affected engine - change in oil pressure?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 02:07
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change in oil pressure?
Since the prop appears to be a HSD Hydromatic, its actuating oil will be lost. I do not recall if it is an extension of the gearbox oil system, but in any case, it is separate completely from the core or gas generator system.

Would you notice a sudden jump in N1 and N2 speed on the affected engine -
The free turbine will try to overspeed but an independent electronic control will keep that from going ballistic by cutting back core speed. (These may be labeled Nhigh (core) and Nlow (free turbine) but it's been 35 years so I don't claim to remember for sure.) So yes, free turbine will overspeed and cycle up and down, driven by core also cycling.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 02:11
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Thank you.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 03:35
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Interesting to see that the prop was already feathered when it departed the airframe.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 04:15
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Forgive my confusion but there's something not quite right about this from the ABC, my bold.
The first officer saw the propeller separate and travel horizontally upwards and away from the aircraft.
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