Gay colors?
I see that there are now PJs with the kangaroo in rainbow colours. Where will this end? Do passengers have a choice? 
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Strong rumour here amongst the J* jocks QF sponsoring these brave wimen to the party
Bloody awesome if tru
Bloody awesome if tru
If it is true that a majority of straight people in Australia regard the alleged sexual practices of many homosexual men to be abhorent then is it not feasible to suggest that any such putative widely held views will not be subject to fundamental change except perhaps within future generations? Within our society in this country, that is. It is surely possible for a reasonable person to hold to such opinions without being labelled rabidly homophobic - across the board. But if, for instance, schools were to include in classes to do with the sex education, detailed descriptions of alternative practices, along with the diagrams common to manuals of sexual instruction, then there would inevitably be strong objections raised by parents and large sections of the community.
Now here's an observation for Mr Ida Down (curious name there cobbs - - it smacks of a slightly 'off' joke as if you'd like to be upending.) For our once proud national carrier to be exploiting the mardi gras for commercial purposes would displease founders Hudson Fysh, Paul McGuinness, Fergus McMaster et al . On a cold and still night near certain graveyards, their mutterings may in imagination be faintly heard. (Thinks - recalling the stern portrait face of another founding director of the company, Ainslie Templeton, there was a visage implacably opposed to deviance of any kind , anywhere.)
IDA DOWN -
sorry ida too late for that. You have unwittingly opened a can of writhing worms which has resulted as ever in
a flurry of idiotic posts and some brilliant ones. If awards were handed out for this, pscho joe would be to the fore front. - for his well-honed satirical humour (up there with John Clarke) and his ability not to take himself too G DAMN seriously.
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perhaps this thread is still going because the mods see the benefit of an open debate on SSM as a healthy and useful thing, there being a few sound thinkers who hop onto proone when they sign off, all weary and spent. (They will find no stimulation or relaxation turning to the often vacuities of the Q and A program on the idiot box.) Maybe , too, they have read Robert Thouless's brilliant little book "Straight and Crooked Thinking". It long pre-dates the SSM debate, by the way. Interesting that some posters see no merit at all in even having the discussion. Are their minds that closed that they have no valid opinion on the subject?
Now here's an observation for Mr Ida Down (curious name there cobbs - - it smacks of a slightly 'off' joke as if you'd like to be upending.) For our once proud national carrier to be exploiting the mardi gras for commercial purposes would displease founders Hudson Fysh, Paul McGuinness, Fergus McMaster et al . On a cold and still night near certain graveyards, their mutterings may in imagination be faintly heard. (Thinks - recalling the stern portrait face of another founding director of the company, Ainslie Templeton, there was a visage implacably opposed to deviance of any kind , anywhere.)
IDA DOWN -
But fella's can we forget the gay versus straight war, do we really care if your F/O is gay as long as he/she is competent, who gives a ratz? Can we get back to the paint job?
a flurry of idiotic posts and some brilliant ones. If awards were handed out for this, pscho joe would be to the fore front. - for his well-honed satirical humour (up there with John Clarke) and his ability not to take himself too G DAMN seriously.
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perhaps this thread is still going because the mods see the benefit of an open debate on SSM as a healthy and useful thing, there being a few sound thinkers who hop onto proone when they sign off, all weary and spent. (They will find no stimulation or relaxation turning to the often vacuities of the Q and A program on the idiot box.) Maybe , too, they have read Robert Thouless's brilliant little book "Straight and Crooked Thinking". It long pre-dates the SSM debate, by the way. Interesting that some posters see no merit at all in even having the discussion. Are their minds that closed that they have no valid opinion on the subject?
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I would just like to say that when a gay man begins to harangue me for perceived intolerance and prejudice , for having the temerity to suggest that the joining together in wedlock of a man and a woman is somehow on a higher philosophical and conceptual plane than the joining together of a man and a man or the union of a woman with a woman, it is at that point that I become intolerant. Intolerant of the whole damn edifice that seeks to enshrine the homosexual lobby's beliefs into an undifferentiated code of universal acceptance . Normally I'd not have a word to say on the subject , but present circumstances almost demand a response. The law in Australia now permits anything that harms no one to take place in the privacy of a private place. But the advocates of SSM want more than that. They would like to impose their wishes on a majority who are in all probability happy with the status quo. When a man and a woman come together in wedlock is that any different to a man and man wanting a legitimised union or a woman and a woman also wanting this approval? And where does taste come into this? Anywhere? Aesthetes tell us that ultimately in matters of good taste there is a thin fine line separating man from the beasts, below which standards rapidly deteriorate going further and further down the scale into realms decidedly sub-human. For some these views are extreme. But in fact they are only put forward here to illustrate how far we are from any consensus in this country. In the present climate, Cpt Bloggs views on family values and the raising of children
constitute more than just the safe option. They are at the cornerstone, the benchmark , of a stable and happy home, community or country.
Too many pay just lip service to these ideals. Far from materialistic considerations, if we do not do our very best to bring up our kids right-mindedly, then we are on the skids. much as they need love, support and protection, they also need a climate free of indoctrination into the tough questions, at least until a certain age.
constitute more than just the safe option. They are at the cornerstone, the benchmark , of a stable and happy home, community or country.
Too many pay just lip service to these ideals. Far from materialistic considerations, if we do not do our very best to bring up our kids right-mindedly, then we are on the skids. much as they need love, support and protection, they also need a climate free of indoctrination into the tough questions, at least until a certain age.
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Fantome,
Please try not to panic, regarding 'Ida Down'.
Perhaps the name doesn't has anything to do with any outrageous homosexual inference, that you may fear?
I reckon that it's a play on words of 'eiderdown'. That's a quilt filled with duck feathers..
Please try not to panic, regarding 'Ida Down'.
Perhaps the name doesn't has anything to do with any outrageous homosexual inference, that you may fear?
I reckon that it's a play on words of 'eiderdown'. That's a quilt filled with duck feathers..
Indoctrination? I do hope you don't expose them to Christianity then Fantome.
My brother is gay and in a civil partnership with a very nice bloke in the UK (happened before marriage was legalised there) - to my kids this is entirely natural. They haven't been "indoctrinated" but have had their questions answered.
My brother is gay and in a civil partnership with a very nice bloke in the UK (happened before marriage was legalised there) - to my kids this is entirely natural. They haven't been "indoctrinated" but have had their questions answered.
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Fantome,
I can only quote 8 words from your diatribe that I agree with.
The rest, is your misguided opinion. There are millions of separated families in this country, and domestic violence towards women and children is front page news almost daily. And it isn't coming from the LGBwhatever community.
There are two families in my neighbourhoud of note, one is a weekly christian church-going family with 2 kids (police just escorted husband out of home due wife and child bashing) and the other is a lesbian couple with a child (who is a good friend to my son), who is a very happy child, and obviously well loved, supported and protected.
I know that's only anecdotal, but you haven't offered any statistics with your post either.
much as they need love, support and protection
The rest, is your misguided opinion. There are millions of separated families in this country, and domestic violence towards women and children is front page news almost daily. And it isn't coming from the LGBwhatever community.
There are two families in my neighbourhoud of note, one is a weekly christian church-going family with 2 kids (police just escorted husband out of home due wife and child bashing) and the other is a lesbian couple with a child (who is a good friend to my son), who is a very happy child, and obviously well loved, supported and protected.
I know that's only anecdotal, but you haven't offered any statistics with your post either.
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Don't quote me statistics unless you mean the more comely 'vital statistics'.
My wife's phone number when we first met was 343638 . Old mate, a yank, when I first gave him that number said straight up _ "Kinda pear-shaped!"
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
What did the most recent census ask us to fill in on gender? Was it MALE - FEMALE - OTHERWISE. ?
N.B No one so far has objected to my contention about how you would, hypothetically, go about illustrating a comprehensive sex manual. To cater for all tastes. If you believe that certain practices are perversions of the norm is it offensive to say so?
You don't have to tell me of all the decent upright homosexuals you know who raise "their' children in a happy loving and non-prejudicial domestic setting. I started my last post by pointing out how annoying it is to be talked down to by a minority who presume that I need re-educating.
I get it. Wait till you are asked - 'please explain?' - Never broach the delicate subject with them, for instance, about what a man might do to a man.
Or give some history of life below decks, SAILOR.
My wife's phone number when we first met was 343638 . Old mate, a yank, when I first gave him that number said straight up _ "Kinda pear-shaped!"
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
What did the most recent census ask us to fill in on gender? Was it MALE - FEMALE - OTHERWISE. ?
N.B No one so far has objected to my contention about how you would, hypothetically, go about illustrating a comprehensive sex manual. To cater for all tastes. If you believe that certain practices are perversions of the norm is it offensive to say so?
You don't have to tell me of all the decent upright homosexuals you know who raise "their' children in a happy loving and non-prejudicial domestic setting. I started my last post by pointing out how annoying it is to be talked down to by a minority who presume that I need re-educating.
They haven't been "indoctrinated" but have had their questions answered.
Or give some history of life below decks, SAILOR.
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Do you explain what you get up to with your wife in bed to your kids? Other than in the most general terms I don't think so. certainly not when they're 5. Who says I didn't talk to them about it? I answered the questions they asked as a result in an age appropriate manner.
You get precisely nothing, other than your own prejudices.
You get precisely nothing, other than your own prejudices.
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Gee Fantome, you're all over the shop!
I don't know why I signed in and bothered to reply, but here goes...
I guess I'll start with the question on why nobody has answered your question on the comprehensive sex manual... Well, maybe it's because we see it as a dumb question? I mean, what would the manual be used for? And what relevance would it have? If your conventionally bred kid asked how they were conceived, would you present the karma sutra and a stack of porn mag's with a bunch of supporting multimedia and advise the youngling, "thus! You were conceived in any one of these positions"... fair dinkum!
Does a kid need a manual about sex between man and woman, man and man, woman and woman or whatever other human combination might exist? Or is it better to arm them with the essence of healthy and consensual sexual relations and disease prevention and management?
As for the rest of your ranting... I really can't be bothered. But I'll say this - I reckon you've lost all sense of propriety and tact.
I don't know why I signed in and bothered to reply, but here goes...
I guess I'll start with the question on why nobody has answered your question on the comprehensive sex manual... Well, maybe it's because we see it as a dumb question? I mean, what would the manual be used for? And what relevance would it have? If your conventionally bred kid asked how they were conceived, would you present the karma sutra and a stack of porn mag's with a bunch of supporting multimedia and advise the youngling, "thus! You were conceived in any one of these positions"... fair dinkum!
Does a kid need a manual about sex between man and woman, man and man, woman and woman or whatever other human combination might exist? Or is it better to arm them with the essence of healthy and consensual sexual relations and disease prevention and management?
As for the rest of your ranting... I really can't be bothered. But I'll say this - I reckon you've lost all sense of propriety and tact.
about how you would, hypothetically, go about illustrating a comprehensive sex manual. To cater for all tastes.
The Gay Joy of Sex
oh you are so helpful to show an ignoramus the light . . . I will ever be in your debt . .. stayed up all night reading it . . .. I almost want to know what it is like . .. . to be one of those . .but alas . .crabbed age sans hair sans teeth
THE JOY OF GAY SEX About the Book
For a new century and a new generation of readers comes a fully revised and expanded edition of a classic guide to gay sex, love, and life.
Invaluable as a sex guide, a resource on building self-esteem, and a trusted aid for coming out of the closet, The Joy of Gay Sex covers the ins and outs of gay life alphabetically from "anus" to "wrestling." Noted psychologist Dr. Charles Silverstein has collaborated once again with critically acclaimed novelist Felice Picano on this third edition, updating every single entry and adding nearly thirty new entries. The authors provide positive and responsible advice on safe sex in all its varieties; on emotional and relationship-oriented issues such as long-term couples, loneliness, and growing older; and on scores of diverse topics ranging from spirituality to online dating. With fifty new line drawings by acclaimed illustrator Joseph Phillips, this landmark reference is a necessary addition to every gay man's bookshelf.
THE JOY OF GAY SEX About the Book
For a new century and a new generation of readers comes a fully revised and expanded edition of a classic guide to gay sex, love, and life.
Invaluable as a sex guide, a resource on building self-esteem, and a trusted aid for coming out of the closet, The Joy of Gay Sex covers the ins and outs of gay life alphabetically from "anus" to "wrestling." Noted psychologist Dr. Charles Silverstein has collaborated once again with critically acclaimed novelist Felice Picano on this third edition, updating every single entry and adding nearly thirty new entries. The authors provide positive and responsible advice on safe sex in all its varieties; on emotional and relationship-oriented issues such as long-term couples, loneliness, and growing older; and on scores of diverse topics ranging from spirituality to online dating. With fifty new line drawings by acclaimed illustrator Joseph Phillips, this landmark reference is a necessary addition to every gay man's bookshelf.
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