Qantas Near Miss Paraburdoo WA.
Originally Posted by ParkingHell
OH&S people on large Minesites live for this sort of stuff, they will try and take over and run the whole investigation and with nil knowledge of aviation. Then put Qantas through the ringer and it will go on and on.
They will feast on this for months.
They will feast on this for months.
Rio put one of their ore trains in the dirt in a very big way a few months ago and the ATSB has taken over the investigation - first time I can recall the ATSB investigating one of the Pilbara miners. I dare say this'll be the case here too.
Apparently everyone at PBO was going flat out yesterday to clear the backlog. Something like 11 flights in and out.
That apron has always been a tight squeeze but usually if a third 717 / 100 arrived when the bays were full, it would wait on the runway until the bay cleared. There might have been a reason for vacating the runway early but that is something for the companies and investigators to sort out. There is a third bay but limited from memory to F50 aircraft and below mainly due to pavement limitations.
RTIO will have themselves in a lather at the moment with the self appointed aviation experts (they call them "champions"
) providing expert opinion to senior management.
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Even the cabin crew call it tarmac when doing the arrival announcement.
That apron has always been a tight squeeze but usually if a third 717 / 100 arrived when the bays were full, it would wait on the runway until the bay cleared. There might have been a reason for vacating the runway early but that is something for the companies and investigators to sort out. There is a third bay but limited from memory to F50 aircraft and below mainly due to pavement limitations.
RTIO will have themselves in a lather at the moment with the self appointed aviation experts (they call them "champions"
) providing expert opinion to senior management.Aerial Perspective
I wish they'd stop calling it the tarmac... tarmac is a type of surface material. If it's not a runway or a taxiway it's an apron.
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717 NXN still parked up at PBO this morning. Has not moved far since incident.
Dont be too harsh on the concept of "champions" uner the Rio system.They are not self-appointed,as such. RTIO has a standard for everything which relate back to the global RioTinto standards while recognising As/Nzs standards,and state and federal legislation. I should know, I was the C2 (electrical safety) champion on my old site.It is an internal RTIO appointment running in parallel with my statutory appointment.Think the rio aviation standard is C7 from memory.
Dont be too harsh on the concept of "champions" uner the Rio system.They are not self-appointed,as such. RTIO has a standard for everything which relate back to the global RioTinto standards while recognising As/Nzs standards,and state and federal legislation. I should know, I was the C2 (electrical safety) champion on my old site.It is an internal RTIO appointment running in parallel with my statutory appointment.Think the rio aviation standard is C7 from memory.
I wish they'd stop calling it the tarmac... tarmac is a type of surface material. If it's not a runway or a taxiway it's an apron.
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I started in aircraft engineering in the early 60s and it was definitely known as tarmac then. The reason being that the tarmac was black and well, tarmac. The hangar was concrete and white. So there were different rules for tarmac and hangar traffic and it was very easy to determine where this was by calling the tarmac, tarmac. Easy really so why complicate it?
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Well the Townsville refueller heard from the lady in the coffee shop in Paraburdoo that her nephew said that the 717 was being "marshalled" at the time of the (non impact) (impact), QF PR choose your option in parentheses.
Puts a slightly different complexion on things, n'est pas?
Puts a slightly different complexion on things, n'est pas?
Have they managed to divorce the aircraft yet?
How exactly does one Marshall an aircraft out?
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Yes it is the C7 standard and those responsible for it generally SFA industry experience to draw on. One I can think of would have had trouble spelling "airport"
Quaity reporting from The West Oz ...https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa...-mishap/#page1
Gotta love eyewitness Will Snaith's observation
“We saw this guy jumping up and down outside the window, going, “Stop, stop stop’.
“The pilot taxied left and this guy’s jumping around waving his arms
"Mr Snaith said he could not understand why someone was shouting at the pilot from the runway, apparently without a radio.
I hope he was wearing hi-viz while shouting at the pilot from the runway or it could have been quite risky!
Gotta love eyewitness Will Snaith's observation
“We saw this guy jumping up and down outside the window, going, “Stop, stop stop’.
“The pilot taxied left and this guy’s jumping around waving his arms
"Mr Snaith said he could not understand why someone was shouting at the pilot from the runway, apparently without a radio.
I hope he was wearing hi-viz while shouting at the pilot from the runway or it could have been quite risky!
Report released, for anyone interested
Investigation: AO-2016-129 - Taxiing collision involving Boeing 717, VH-NXN, and Fokker F28 MK 0100, VH-NHF, Paraburdoo Airport, WA, on 5 October 2016
I think my original hypothesis wasn't too far off the mark!
Investigation: AO-2016-129 - Taxiing collision involving Boeing 717, VH-NXN, and Fokker F28 MK 0100, VH-NHF, Paraburdoo Airport, WA, on 5 October 2016
I think my original hypothesis wasn't too far off the mark!