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Old 11th May 2018, 02:21
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down to about 5 at air un zud they reckon atm....
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Old 11th May 2018, 07:28
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Originally Posted by Aviatrix91


Its 9-10 at the moment not +

Not a bad place to be, East Coast jet gig in Oz with great crews and reasonable pay
Not sure what that last sentence was about, I'm sure JQ would be O.K to work at. 9-10 seems like a long time at a low cost, guess all the rumors about JQ must not be entirely true, being such a horrible place to work and all.
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Old 11th May 2018, 07:59
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Originally Posted by Daylight Robbery
And you wanted to be a pilot? Is this a millennial thing?
I don't wish to play the man and not the ball, but physics has got to be the lead contender for anyone serious about flying at high school. Bit more relevance than film studies....
Garbage.

I never went past Year 10, never touched physics, dropped out of High School, so I probably shouldnít be flying then. Problem is Iíve got over 20k in Airbus time.

Whilst I encourage all students to give 110%, Astronaut Maths and Science subjects are not pre requirements to fly big twins.

If you want 1-2 year commands go to Vietnam low costs. Orange Star in particular could offer transfer back to home base at some stage.
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Old 11th May 2018, 23:10
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Education is a bit like experience - you wont understand the benefits until you have it.

There wont be an easy transfer to JQ Mainline from Vietnam either, you will have to go through the recruitment process again and start at the bottom on the Australian list.
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Old 12th May 2018, 03:10
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Do many take LWOP from Oz to chase a quick command in Jetstar Vietnam/Japan? Is it a practical option?
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Old 12th May 2018, 08:48
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Originally Posted by Konyagi
Do many take LWOP from Oz to chase a quick command in Jetstar Vietnam/Japan? Is it a practical option?
A lot of guys have taken the oppurtunity to head across, although I haven't seen it advertised for a while. Its not really a 'quick' option though, you have to meet the company minimums for command which would take most guys around 3 years of A320/1 flying to do if joining from GA/Regionals (can't recall the specific requirements off my head, the figure is what I came up with when looking at it a while ago).

That said, its a great option for guys without family commitments etc who are after an adventure - I haven't heard anyone regret doing it. Being able to choose between a Vietnam 320 command, Japan 320 FO, or B787 FO from around 4 years in is pretty great career path for those looking at joining JQ.
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Old 14th May 2018, 07:37
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Has anyone from hold file heard anything yet?? Losing hope here
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Old 14th May 2018, 08:08
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I wouldnít worry too much.

There is a regional shortage of A320 training capacity. So they are struggling to slot in training for new hires, plus upgrades. Plus the cyclic program.

Youíre ranked on the hold file depending on your background. The ideal candidate is a Rex Captain. The acceptable candidate meets the mins. If the ideal candidate joins the hold. They will jump you for a start date. When the ideal candidates run out. They will start the acceptable candidate.

From what Iím hearing they canít get enough or Ďanyí ideal candidates. Thereís not enough to go around. So they are taking regional FOs. Single pilot multi engine guys and girls etc.
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Old 17th May 2018, 00:02
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So I was having a Ďchatí with someone at Melbourne and got told that if I was to continue in the process I would need to discontinue any other applications with the greater Qantas group. Is this typical? Iíve had interest from a couple of my applications. Iím not even sure I want to leave my current job. Is this what everyone else had to do?
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Old 19th May 2018, 11:34
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Originally Posted by sta5fhl
Why is it so difficult for JQ pilots who go overseas like Japan, Vietnam or NZ to come back after they have a bit more experience? A JQ recruiter said its always difficult to come back if you choose one of those overseas positions. Sounds like every airline in Aus is desperate for pilots at the moment anyway
Its difficult because essentially they are completely separate companies with separate seniority lists so if you left to go to one of those companies you have to resign from Aus. Coming back you would be starting from scratch with everyone else at the bottom of the seniority list again. Yes in the past LWOP has been on offer but itís not the normal
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Old 19th May 2018, 14:12
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Originally Posted by sta5fhl
Why is it so difficult for JQ pilots who go overseas like Japan, Vietnam or NZ to come back after they have a bit more experience? A JQ recruiter said its always difficult to come back if you choose one of those overseas positions. Sounds like every airline in Aus is desperate for pilots at the moment anyway
It does depend on HOW you go to those entities.
If you joined jq pacific/Asian/nz directly then there is no pathway back to aus AT ALL as the previous poster has pointed out. However if you took a jq aus position and then took leave without pay to one of the entities your base and rank you held in aus remains until you return.
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Old 20th May 2018, 01:01
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Depends how senior you get. Not many hang around 10+ years in Vietnam, if you are there that long with Management aspirations then thatís your opportunity to get back south. You need connections with executives.

Its been done before. Iíve done something similar before. Depends if you want leadership positions really.
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Old 20th May 2018, 05:07
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Depends how senior you get. Not many hang around 10+ years in Vietnam, if you are there that long with Management aspirations then thatís your opportunity to get back south. You need connections with executives.

Its been done before. Iíve done something similar before. Depends if you want leadership positions really.
Problem with this is a management postion awarded out of seniority can only be awarded for a fixed term, then you take whatever postion your seniority allows - per the EBA.

So 3 years later (or a management shuffle, new CP etc) and your back to an A320 FO with 3 years seniority.

The unions have recently taken this up with the company as a number of senior guys have had fixed term B787 introduction roles expire and don't want to return to lower seniority positions on the A320 fleet.

This is all probably beyond the scope of this thread, but if you want a postion on the Aus seniority list take a job in Australia - then move around the group as you desire. There is no real back door into JQ Aus anymore.
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Old 30th May 2018, 09:39
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I have been on the hold for a little while and nothing has come through unfortunately. Anyone know the average wait times for a non Rex employee?
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Old 30th May 2018, 11:44
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What is with all this facination with Rex? I assume a large chunk of senior Jetstar Management pilots are all ex Rex or something?

Mabye try and get a job on the Saab. Guaranteed job then awaiting on the bus!
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Old 30th May 2018, 18:32
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Thereís no fascination with Rex per se, they just happen to demolish most of the ADL base and then some. I think it was just a lot of peeps on the hold file that all got the go ahead. Canít be too many left at Rex!
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Old 30th May 2018, 20:46
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Originally Posted by notthisguy1
I have been on the hold for a little while and nothing has come through unfortunately. Anyone know the average wait times for a non Rex employee?

how long have you been on hold file if you dont mind me asking
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Old 30th May 2018, 22:57
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What is with all this facination with Rex? I assume a large chunk of senior Jetstar Management pilots are all ex Rex or something?
Nothing to do with management. More to do with the fact that Rex pilots can go straight to J*. Qlink pilots are only released to J* or mainline at the rate of one or two per month, if that. So if J* want turboprop pilots Rex has the largest pool available.

If you want to join Mainline or J*, join Rex instead of Qlink. You'll get there quicker.
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Old 30th May 2018, 23:10
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Originally Posted by Sykes
Nothing to do with management. More to do with the fact that Rex pilots can go straight to J*. Qlink pilots are only released to J* or mainline at the rate of one or two per month, if that. So if J* want turboprop pilots Rex has the largest pool available.

If you want to join Mainline or J*, join Rex instead of Qlink. You'll get there quicker.

so guys that are on hold file and not with rex have no chance????
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Old 30th May 2018, 23:12
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At Jetstar, we do hire a lot of Rex pilots and perhaps to a lesser degree many Qlink pilots. There are pathways to transfer (I use the term loosely) within the group but if you're going to bother doing this, particularly right now, you're better placed to aim for mainline than Jetstar. I say this as a Jetstar captain, not because Jetstar is not a great place to work, I can assure all those interested that it is, nevertheless, Qantas currently is a much better prospect for those aspiring to get in the left seat one day.

Nobody has a crystal ball but the average age of a captain at Jetstar versus the average age of a captain at mainline might be a difference of perhaps ten years. In addition to that, the pay at least little better on the narrow body fleet and appreciably better on other aircraft. Qantas simply has more options for those that get bored, albeit Jetstar has more narrow body base options.

If you do end up in Jetstar, have no fear at all, life will be very good however my guess is that a move to the left seat of a narrow body will be approaching fifteen years by the time the music stops, even if Qantas does no further expansion, by sheer weight of impending retirements, there is likely to be many more commands coming up over the same period of time.

Good luck either way.
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