New Qantas Uniform
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So far, I've had all manner of comments from family, friends and neighbours. NONE are positive. All begin with the obvious question (and variants thereof): How could they spend all this money when the airline is barely surviving? Other comments include references to Capt Stubing, The Love Boat, milkmen, postmen, not retro - just old fashioned, etc. I can't agree more with all of them. Some here ask why we should care what we wear. I say it's because we should take pride in our airline and our traditions, and much of that comes from our appearance. The current executive has trashed so much of what was the traditional brand, and this is possibly the last bit to go. The hats are absolutely the most disgraceful and most highly visible element, but the axing of the traditional wings and hat badge - so much a part of Qantas for so long, is beyond reproach. This is what happens when management and some designer they found under a (f)rock are so detached from their workforce. Can't wait til they all bugger off and let someone with an ounce of sense and a GENUINE view to improving workforce relations to pick up the pieces. If there are any pieces left. And if there's anyone out there who has the smarts to do it.
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The suit I reckon is OK. Not thrilled with half sleeve gold bars and half width but I'll get over it. I have to admit it still looks pretty good.
The 'centered' rank slides look very corporate. I'm not a fan but they pay me a lot of money and I'll get over it.
The wings I'm disappointed in. I like my wings to look traditional. Wings of a swift I think is how the traditional ones are described? (IsDon? ). Not a fan of these at all. I reckon the bullion ones on the shirts will get very dirty very quickly under harnesses and may even be uncomfortable if there is any bulk to them. Reckon they'll change back to metal in a couple of years time- particularly if we are going through a fair few pair of them as they start to look worn. Again though, they pay me a lot of money......
The hat though? If we are going for the heritage look I wish they would have applied that to the wings, gold bars, etc.
So all in all I'm disappointed but I'll get over it. I'm hoping at least that the shirt, pants and jacket are more comfortable than what we've got at the moment. I'm reliably informed they are.
The 'centered' rank slides look very corporate. I'm not a fan but they pay me a lot of money and I'll get over it.
The wings I'm disappointed in. I like my wings to look traditional. Wings of a swift I think is how the traditional ones are described? (IsDon? ). Not a fan of these at all. I reckon the bullion ones on the shirts will get very dirty very quickly under harnesses and may even be uncomfortable if there is any bulk to them. Reckon they'll change back to metal in a couple of years time- particularly if we are going through a fair few pair of them as they start to look worn. Again though, they pay me a lot of money......
The hat though? If we are going for the heritage look I wish they would have applied that to the wings, gold bars, etc.
So all in all I'm disappointed but I'll get over it. I'm hoping at least that the shirt, pants and jacket are more comfortable than what we've got at the moment. I'm reliably informed they are.
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The caps do remind one of a 1950's American Good Humor icecream vendor and there is another style of that same cap I can't attach a profession to but it is also 50's.
It only will really work if they also get female flight attendants back in short dresses and stockings and have them stow everything for passengers in the overhead holds. That might be 60's but the flashbacks work nicely for me!!
Super Connie on gate 1 would also work.
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It only will really work if they also get female flight attendants back in short dresses and stockings and have them stow everything for passengers in the overhead holds. That might be 60's but the flashbacks work nicely for me!!
Super Connie on gate 1 would also work.
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Keg,
I believe you will look very dashing,suave and debonair,just like the PanAm pilots of past.Money ,in this buisness,always gets me over it.Post a photo so we can rave review if possible?
I believe you will look very dashing,suave and debonair,just like the PanAm pilots of past.Money ,in this buisness,always gets me over it.Post a photo so we can rave review if possible?
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Whilst disappointing nobody should be surprised by this. The demo job continues.
Despite seeking input from operational crew members, the executive briefing would have been absolute and if the focus team made any suggestions (outside the scope of the exec. briefing) they would have been graciously received then summarily dismissed. They will of course be expected to wear the criticism/recriminations.
It's no accident that we've become a parody of ourselves; far from it in fact.
The rollout yesterday was up there with Carston's (Utopia, ABC TV) best efforts.
Despite seeking input from operational crew members, the executive briefing would have been absolute and if the focus team made any suggestions (outside the scope of the exec. briefing) they would have been graciously received then summarily dismissed. They will of course be expected to wear the criticism/recriminations.
It's no accident that we've become a parody of ourselves; far from it in fact.
The rollout yesterday was up there with Carston's (Utopia, ABC TV) best efforts.
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I agree with Keg on this one, bar the hat it's not too bad, but I do cringe at the whole fashion show launch. I rarely wear the hat anyway, and it will get filthy rolling around the back of the car, it was one thing I wished they would have got rid of, I believe in modern times it's not relevant unless you are in one of the armed forces.
As for the jacket, I think there would be lucky to be 20% of pilots that ever wear it, although with the cheap look of the shirts that might climb.
I just get the feeling that any input from the pilot group was not taken into account, but hey, that is the norm for Qantas.
As for the jacket, I think there would be lucky to be 20% of pilots that ever wear it, although with the cheap look of the shirts that might climb.
I just get the feeling that any input from the pilot group was not taken into account, but hey, that is the norm for Qantas.
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Well, I like it. I'm looking forward to getting one.
And why does this one look any more like a costume, than the current one?
looks like the QF blokes who wanted beards will be disappointed. I'd suspect there will be some Qlink blokes with beards who will be to.
And why does this one look any more like a costume, than the current one?
looks like the QF blokes who wanted beards will be disappointed. I'd suspect there will be some Qlink blokes with beards who will be to.
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Don't pick on his fashion sense too much, he may shut the airline down again to 'straighten' you out. Must say that the Cpt posing in the middle of the picture on page 2 looks very mmmm, comfortable in his uniform.
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The cap is reminiscent of street ice cream vendors at Disneyland. 
Given the clothing one normally sees worn on slips, I'm amazed at the vanity being displayed by my peers about this uniform...Then again, it's *different* and involves *change* and we all know what that means to the average Qantas pilot...
Woke up this morning hoping it was all a bad dream. Nope that ghastly hat and brevet are still there. What a joke! Couldn't get any closer to a pilots dress up costume if they'd tried.
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Tailwheel, any chance of a poll with some well thought out questions that would give a true indication as to the acceptance of the new outfit?
1. are you a Qantas employee or an interested observe.
2 If you will have to wear this uniform, do you find it an improvement on the current uniform?
3. Which part/s of the uniform do you object to the most? Hat, shirt, wings, etc. number in order of dislike. etc etc
Personally I don't like it at all. It looks like an outfit for a child picked up at a cheap costume shop.
1. are you a Qantas employee or an interested observe.
2 If you will have to wear this uniform, do you find it an improvement on the current uniform?
3. Which part/s of the uniform do you object to the most? Hat, shirt, wings, etc. number in order of dislike. etc etc
Personally I don't like it at all. It looks like an outfit for a child picked up at a cheap costume shop.
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The new uniform is becoming very devisive on other forums. All the pilots ever wanted was some shirts and trousers made out of a better material. The rest is an insult.