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Old 3rd May 2016, 07:44
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Old 3rd May 2016, 08:05
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It just occurred to me, if you remove the wings, it is the same uniform as an Italian traffic cop wears.
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Old 3rd May 2016, 09:13
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Where's the sense of self respect and dignity?
My wife asks me the same thing when we go to a BBQ with her work colleagues. She just doesn't understand the efficiency gains of wearing my uniform for the entire day rather than two different sets of clothes.........chicks.
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Old 3rd May 2016, 09:26
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I'm not a moron, I save the monkey suit until after the bbq.
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Old 3rd May 2016, 09:59
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Originally Posted by IsDon View Post
Maybe that's because the RAAFies had to earn wings.

Retirees have many years vested in the history of Qantas.

Gen Y cadets and the like just bought theirs.
All the people that just joined the link have slogged it out in ga. Did they all buy theirs?
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Old 3rd May 2016, 10:00
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Originally Posted by 2EggOmelette View Post
It just occurred to me, if you remove the wings, it is the same uniform as an Italian traffic cop wears.
Nah!
The Italian uniforms are considerably more stylish - even without the white Sam Browne.

To me, it indicates that the designer (and those that approved it) have little appreciation of the elements that combine to communicate the seniority and responsibility of the wearer.
I'll be the first to agree that rows of brass buttons and scrambled eggs are passť - but.. having flight deck crew looking like Luna Park ticket-takers is another matter.

Some serious thought and design work on the cap badge is required.
As others have noted, the brevet design and placement also needs a think.
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Old 3rd May 2016, 10:55
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Dr Dre

You keep harping on about how the new uniform is respectful and representative of our history and past uniforms, and on the other hand you toss away any thoughts (of people who have probably been wearing and representing this company a lot longer than you) that the stylised coat of arms, southern cross, metal wings (just above the pocket) and everything else about the current uniform also represent certain aspects of the company's tradition and history.

So which way is it? You either care about history and tradition, or you don't. I guess you're too busy defending a uniform you don't really give a shit about.

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Old 3rd May 2016, 12:27
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Originally Posted by IsDon View Post
Maybe that's because the RAAFies had to earn wings.

Retirees have many years vested in the history of Qantas.

Gen Y cadets and the like just bought theirs.
Retirees have nothing vested in Qantas...you were an employee...nothing more, nothing less....

RAAFies....got to fly on my parents coin. Definitely need a big set of wings to stroke that ego.... Met a new Capt yesterday...only took him less than a minute to say 'when I was in the RAAF'
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Old 3rd May 2016, 13:05
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Oops, someone here has a big chip on each shoulder I think......
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Old 3rd May 2016, 13:29
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate View Post
Retirees have nothing vested in Qantas...you were an employee...nothing more, nothing less....

RAAFies....got to fly on my parents coin. Definitely need a big set of wings to stroke that ego.... Met a new Capt yesterday...only took him less than a minute to say 'when I was in the RAAF'
Tried and failed did we?

Can pick one a mile off.

Dry your eyes princess!
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Old 3rd May 2016, 22:00
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Not everyone even applied to the RAAF.

Pretty even split with wankers from GA or the RAAF.
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Old 4th May 2016, 08:37
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Hey at least it is still better than what we have at the low cost subsidiary
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Old 4th May 2016, 09:01
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I think people will begin to like the uniform when they see the real thing. However, I do agree metal wings would of been nice.

The white part of the hat is actually a type of bonded rubber, so it will clean very easily. They did a lot of testing with it. Also the uniform was designed with a large amount of pilot input. They made many changes based on early testing from groups of pilots. Also when you look at the survey's many of them were sitting right in the 50/50 mark of what pilots wanted, so the designer was always going to have a hard time pleasing everyone. The actual quality and cut of the uniforms is a huge improvement also.
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Ha ha, that's the spirit toolish! Make sure you drag everyone down with you.
 
Old 4th May 2016, 09:36
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Originally Posted by Shadowfromthesky View Post
I think people will begin to like the uniform when they see the real thing. However, I do agree metal wings would of been nice.

The white part of the hat is actually a type of bonded rubber, so it will clean very easily. They did a lot of testing with it. Also the uniform was designed with a large amount of pilot input. They made many changes based on early testing from groups of pilots. Also when you look at the survey's many of them were sitting right in the 50/50 mark of what pilots wanted, so the designer was always going to have a hard time pleasing everyone. The actual quality and cut of the uniforms is a huge improvement also.
I don't think anyone has any great issue with the suit. Hat aside the pants and jacket look smart.

The main issue people have is with the wings, epaulettes and cap badge. You know, the things that turn a suit into a uniform. None of these were shown to any of us before the reveal. Even the models had to sign non disclosure clauses.

What bizarre behaviour. Making pilots sign a non disclosure to keep other pilots from finding out what they will wear before the general public.

That just shows the whole focus was on the reveal, the event and how much publicity they could get. The focus should have been on producing something that the people actually wearing the thing would be happy with.

A colossal cock up.
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Old 4th May 2016, 11:53
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Not sure if your info is entirely correct. There were a group of pilots that had seen the hat, and even tested out the wings months before the models signed the NDA. They even changed the backing of the wings because it had two clips which would push on a persons chest when wearing the 5 point harness, so they changed the backing of the wings to something more comfortable. Who knows, maybe they will change the wings if a lot of people don't like them.
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Old 4th May 2016, 12:26
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They even changed the backing of the wings because it had two clips which would push on a persons chest when wearing the 5 point harness
Been modelling those for 25 years. No problems discovered yet... although some would say I don't have a chest!
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Old 4th May 2016, 13:59
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As for the uniform, I can't wait to wear pants that don't resemble 'Mc Hammer'

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Old 4th May 2016, 14:58
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Originally Posted by IsDon View Post
Even the models had to sign non disclosure clauses.
Models? Hahaha if that's what you want to call them that's very nice of you. I think Zoolander would of been more apt in his description, "model, idiot."

Good waste of $300k plus in the reveal, wages of 50 plus "models", actual models and let alone the cost of the design process. Hopefully QF don't cry poor anytime soon asking for a government bailout.
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Old 5th May 2016, 01:53
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The main issue people have is with the wings, epaulettes and cap badge.
I love that this is the same forum that lampoons young wannabes for their over zealous use of gold epaulettes at the local aero club or their first GA interview. And we are now all getting our (now nicely tailored) trousers in a knot about what is basically window dressing.

Edit: sorry IsDon, not directed at you individually, you just had a good quote. I'm just getting annoyed about this molehill being made into a mountain on multiple forums!

Now personally I like the cap badge and epaulettes (the wings I'm not thrilled about), but really there is almost as much outrage about this here as there was about the lock out. Get a grip, if the job and uniform defines you that much you have bigger issues.
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