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Jetconnect vs Jetstar First Officer

Old 23rd Nov 2018, 04:29
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Originally Posted by fullnoise View Post
Previous posts are about Jetstar, but for the record, you are now employed and paid during the TR at Jetconnect. It's only enough to live on (mid 40s) but sure beats two months of unemployment. Other pay scales are in the pay comparison thread.

As for time to command, it's not really known until Qantas amend the TACM etc. to account for NZ pilots, as the current QF command minimums don't allow for upgrades ~3 years after joining for obvious reasons.
thanks. I thought they might be referring to J*. Makes more sense now.

$40k is survival money but I guess it's only for a short time. I'll look up the actual pay scales. (I'm not justifying crappy salaries)

Am I reading that correctly - QF dictates the upgrade criteria and it doesn't matter if you have 500 hours or 15,000 hours, they just want 3 years on company aircraft before upgrading to captain?
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 00:25
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Word on the street is Pac Bro crew being put onto the Aus EBA. Big payrise.
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 02:59
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Word on the street is Pac Bro crew being put onto the Aus EBA. Big payrise.
Are you sure? I dont know all of the specifics of the oz EBA but if the crews are going to remain based in NZ then I doubt the oz EBA complies in its entirety with NZ labour laws.
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 08:36
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Hi Lapon, yes I’m sure I got an email from my union regarding the matter. Company approached unions. Early days but the idea is everyone can fly with everyone all on same conditions. Hope that helps.
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Old 26th Jun 2019, 03:54
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Pretty close Lapon.
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Old 26th Jun 2019, 04:28
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Word around town is a 15% increase over the next 3? years?
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 23:25
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Thread bump.
Just curious if Jetconnect stil dont pay you or for accommodation during training?
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 08:06
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With the latest round of advertising from JC, I'm curious to know if anyone has been approached for an interview? I've applied a couple of times and am confident I'm low on their 'desireables' list but Im wondering whether its an Expressions of interest collection or if they re actually hiring? TIA
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 11:09
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A friend was told that the 1000 multi crew requirement is non negotiable. How they find enough applicants with this experience baffles me.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
A friend was told that the 1000 multi crew requirement is non negotiable. How they find enough applicants with this experience baffles me.
1000 multi crew which is about 2 years in the right seat of a turbo prop is not a baffling level of experience...
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 01:45
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The requirement isnít even 1000 multi crew itís 1000 multi hours. So 500 command from GA then 1 year RHS at a regional. Quite low minimums for a 737 gig in this part of the world. Why do they find it so hard to get pilots?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 02:31
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When you see the pay and find out you dont get paid for first 3 months it is crazy that regional TP guys with 2 years experience go for it.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 02:44
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Climb150 - their first officers are paid and accommodated from day 1.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 03:38
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don't know much about the Jetstar conditions, however I completed a Jetconnect interview and was shocked at what I heard. Give them 17k upfront then go and put yourself up in Melbourne while you do the TR. Fly Auckland do a few weeks of ground training and then start your line flying about 6-8 weeks after commencement. ALL WHILE NOT GETTING PAID. I couldn't believe my ears when they told me that. Although you get the 17k back when your CTL, the fact of the matter was no pay for up to 11 weeks (rough guide depending on how quick they get you through the system). Then they bond you for 2 years. How can anyone afford to do that? I did not want to condone that type of treatment so I said thanks but no thanks.
So this is no longer true?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 05:21
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
A friend was told that the 1000 multi crew requirement is non negotiable. How they find enough applicants with this experience baffles me.
Itís probably baffling when you donít have it.

Itís not so baffling when you realise their ideal candidate is a regional turboprop captain. Not a flying school instructor with plenty of circuit time.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 05:38
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Since the NZ Jetconnect AOC has been closed down all new recruits are paid from day1. Go to a Syd and do the HR induction with all new mainline SOs. Then off to Melbourne to commence the endorsement, I think the bond is now 3 yrs though.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 06:02
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Bonds arent legally enforceable so wouldn't stress. Obviously you'd shoot yourself in the foot as far as the QF group goes and you'd be nuts to go to VA so I guess its a moot point.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 06:11
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
So this is no longer true?
No. and hasnít been for quite some time
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 06:46
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Has the pay changed as well?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:46
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Originally Posted by spektrum View Post
Bonds arent legally enforceable so wouldn't stress. Obviously you'd shoot yourself in the foot as far as the QF group goes and you'd be nuts to go to VA so I guess its a moot point.

This is not an Australian company we're talking about.
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