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Old 8th Jul 2016, 23:48
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A thanks but no thanks email will be sent.
Have you received one yet?
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Old 20th Jul 2016, 12:14
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I did hear on the grapevine that 4 new recruits are starting from UNSW next ground school. Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 02:51
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Nope been 3 weeks
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 05:43
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Email arrived today re invitation to psychometric testing so keep refreshing that inbox...
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 08:37
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^^^

I got the same email inviting for round 2 testing, however there was no link attached to the email?

Same for you?
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 08:54
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Whats the process ? Is it video then psychometric testing then interview ?

Does anyone know whats happening at the Jetstar nz regional side of recruitment ? Info would be highly appreciated
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 11:25
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@Flyboy1987
The email just states the next step is receiving a link to the testing.

@A185F
Here's the process in QLink's own words:
QantasLink Recruitment: Attention
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Old 23rd Jul 2016, 16:49
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GoNumbers,

That's an old recruitment site, Taleo is used these days not Bfound. Some of the info on the Bfound site is out of date.
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 14:42
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When did you guys do your video interview before getting invited to Psych? I haven't received a psych eval e-mail as yet, hopeful still
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 02:49
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Just sat psych test....do not take this test lightly.

Having studied financial planning/accounting at university, this test was what I believe to be far too difficult, especially under the strict time guidelines. Testing ran by a UK mob called TalentQ, numerical and logical part was extremely difficult, I know I have not scored high, but I do not believe anyone will. Sounds completely different to the older format of testing they had. If anyone has also done the test let me know, would be nice to have a discussion.
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 05:23
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@Flyboy1987 when did you complete your video interview?
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 08:57
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@nzkiwipilot about a month or so ago.
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Old 29th Jul 2016, 11:18
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I second that @Flyboy1987 done a lot of testing with different airlines and that was just plain (excuse the pun) crazy. I should have become a doctor, a lot less time trying to decipher arrows (If you have done the test you will get this analogy)
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 10:06
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FWIW and hopefully relevant today to most QF 'group' airlines:

A lot what QF is doing is just plain crazy. Get used to being treated like a child. Many things better than flying for them, however, hopefully this will allay some fears and if not (or it's wrong), nothing lost I assume most here would be smart enough to take all on board but ditch the rubbish!

I don't know what they are 'seeking' now (though someone without an opinion on anything would likely be right up there) but in the old days the purpose of psych testing was to tire you to the point they knew you weren't lying (you can't cross reference 800+ questions) and meet certain 'nebulous' criteria. They want to know you won't turn into a wacko if stressed. The actual 'real' pilots interviewing (should) be a lot more practical.

The arrow reference sounds similar to what I did. And back then it was just as bizarre. If it's the same 'type' of thing, they are not after perfect scores but a rate of change/improvement in spatial awareness in an unfamiliar environment. In todays terms, I guess, hoping you will be able to 'cope' in a situation like the Learmonth A330 that decided it was stalling in cruise, or AF447.

They know you will be nervous and unsure. They probably want that - proves you are human and not over cocky - something they hate, even if 'they' perceive it incorrectly. And that was the old days, before AJ decided to sack everyone who might even suggest his watch could be two seconds slow.

Flyboy- as a tongue in cheek word of warning, put away any (if it was good) financial planning knowledge you might have, because aside from management self enrichment, there is no financial plan at QF group companies! More seriously, what you've written seems from memory along the lines of what our group did. I tried to get everything correct (and wouldn't have come close) a mate got to 2 minutes to go and just filled out answers to 'finish'. We both got in, go figure.

Obviously prepare, be concerned but not overly so, be practical, take it as it comes but more importantly I would suggest - don't try to be 'fake', that will be found out and will count against you. There are a lot of not very bright crew out in any airline - it is well known perfection doesn't really exist. More than ever, crew are not leaders, but pawns in the company. They may say they want to hire junior captains, but its really captains who will tow the company line under ANY circumstances that they really want.

If you get through or not, do NOT take it as a major 'fail' in life, and I mean what I write, many I know would consider (20 years later) getting in as being a 'fail'. It is a very big world out there and flying for a living very soon becomes a job. An extremely demanding job for (nowadays) only reasonable pay. Also remember that even in the same industry different people simply do not fit particular companies. That is not 'your' fault, nor is it 'theirs'. You will know people who get in and you will think 'What the F***?' and others who won't get in and you will think 'What the F***?'. And I've known some who were rejected by QF 20+ years prior to them being accepted! Not getting into a very controlled environment (like English boarding school) might be the biggest break of your life.

Just skimming through the previous 10 or so posts. If you do get in and are flat broke, very politely ask if it might be possible to advance you a pay or two. No pilot would ever take that the wrong way, and at that stage they want you out online asap, not having to repeat sims because you cant afford to eat. And they can only say 'no'.

PS: I just had a quick look at the TalentQ website (mainly to see if any QF Directors or ex Directors had set the thing up to further enrich themselves - the name is suspicious and I do not trust anyone anymore, but I digress).Regarding the testing, it would seem my recollection seems to still be pretty accurate. They mention (basically) be practical and honest.

https://www.trytalentq.com/

Last edited by V-Jet; 31st Jul 2016 at 10:17. Reason: Added PS after checking out TalentQ
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 04:40
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Very true words there V-Jet. Unfortunately in Australia (and it has always been so) there are really very few flying jobs available so whilst not getting into QLink on face value may not be a big deal it could mean the end of someones flying career who is otherwise perfectly capable. I think that is why these types of testing regimes bring such angst amongst the pilot fraternity.

My other issue is once people start 'cheating' on the testing system by getting coached that basically negates any point in actually doing it in the first instance as the company is now getting a manufactured result rather than a true test of one's aptitude.

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Old 1st Aug 2016, 21:14
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Unfortunately in Australia (and it has always been so) there are really very few flying jobs available so whilst not getting into QLink on face value may not be a big deal it could mean the end of someones flying career who is otherwise perfectly capable. I think that is why these types of testing regimes bring such angst amongst the pilot fraternity.
Not sure where you are at in your career, but if you haven't cracked a flying gig then your "location" may well have something to do with it.

QLink is far from the only regional in Australia. If you strike out with every regional and major then you might want to reconsider your career choices. Aviation is an industry that requires ample patience and lots of hard work to boot.
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 22:51
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Not getting into Qlink could be the best thing that ever happened in your career. Especially if you are looking at Level 1 entry.
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Old 2nd Aug 2016, 00:26
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Especially if you are looking at Level 1 entry.
Curious as to your justification for singling out Level 1?
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Old 2nd Aug 2016, 10:25
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Surely there would be an excess of level 2 guys that would be suitable for the job? Is there any need for level 1 guys with next to no experience?

Even though the level 2 minimums were next to nothing, most guys I know who have applied, have in excess of 2000 hours charter experience up north plus instructor ratings and other bits and pieces.
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Old 2nd Aug 2016, 11:20
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Surely getting into QLink is better than having to put up with sh!thouse GA emoloyment?
The way things are going at the upper end of GA at the moment, you'd be on a much better wicket getting around in a King Air/Conquest/etc then in the right hand seat of a regional.
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