QF recall leave without pay pilots
I stand corrected. That would indicate a salary of around 216 for a JQ (level 2) F/O. If I'm to assume you have 4 months pay left. If that's the case, I take it back.
Yep, most FO's are earning a nice take home right now and the overtime tap is not likely to be turned off anytime soon as we are going to loose a lot of guys heading back to Qantas. They're working their ring off for it but it's good money.
I'm not working so hard
I'm not working so hard
Ive never understood the whole 'oh they are gettin smashed but they are making good money!!' Argument.
Isnt the whole point to work the least amount to make the most amount of money? Thats why I got into flying!! It certainly wasnt to fly 1000 hours a year.....
Isnt the whole point to work the least amount to make the most amount of money? Thats why I got into flying!! It certainly wasnt to fly 1000 hours a year.....
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Yes I'm a JQ NB Level 2 FO and taking out the backpay and bonus I expect to make around 160 to 170k. So total will be around $200,000. You will work hard (flying hours) but duty time is not bad. I have ran the 'time spent on duty' past some mates at QF and VA and JQ pilots for the same hours are at work less and waste less of their life in hotels and at airports sitting around.
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Im with you there...whats the point in earning all this coin and not having the time for any quality of life. The novelty of going to work, when flying this much, really starts to wear off quickly too!
Don't forget that figure will include the bonuses that were received early in the financial year.
Why do you think Jetstar was started in the first place? Unfortunately the people in charge of rostering and recruiting want to test where the limit is of how many hours a pilot can sustain for their 365 day totals. As someone said at Jetstar, the lifestyle equation is: time or money = lifestyle
Isnt the whole point to work the least amount to make the most amount of money?
I get the feeling something big is about to play out.
Everything has gone very quiet. Recruitment isn't replacing guys that are leaving and the guys are getting flogged. Most guys seem to be flying 90+. That's not sustainable long term.
No training resources to train the replacements and the company can't afford to upgrade guys as they need fos.
With the SOs going it's going to be very interesting.
Also interesting to note that Qlink is about to be stripped of heaps of captains taking up their belated cadetships at Qantas.
That in itself will create a heap of movement.
I get the feeling Virgin will also ramp up recruitment if Qantas do.
So for the GA guys there's positive times ahead.
It's funny how the Qantas guys love piling **** on jetstar. Yes it's slowed down. However it will ramp up again. There's a lot of jets on the way. I'd expect to see more 787s not less. They are making a killing in SEA with them. When they are not broken down.
The foreign competition tried to weaken Qantas domestically so they couldn't pursue them via jetstar in their own backyards. Qantas is killing the pig, so id expect to see them go after the competition very shortly.
They will also need to do something about lion air before the genie is out of the bottle. They have a lot of jets on the way with big expansion plans.
Id expect to see big expansion in the Asian franchises shortly.
Everything has gone very quiet. Recruitment isn't replacing guys that are leaving and the guys are getting flogged. Most guys seem to be flying 90+. That's not sustainable long term.
No training resources to train the replacements and the company can't afford to upgrade guys as they need fos.
With the SOs going it's going to be very interesting.
Also interesting to note that Qlink is about to be stripped of heaps of captains taking up their belated cadetships at Qantas.
That in itself will create a heap of movement.
I get the feeling Virgin will also ramp up recruitment if Qantas do.
So for the GA guys there's positive times ahead.
It's funny how the Qantas guys love piling **** on jetstar. Yes it's slowed down. However it will ramp up again. There's a lot of jets on the way. I'd expect to see more 787s not less. They are making a killing in SEA with them. When they are not broken down.
The foreign competition tried to weaken Qantas domestically so they couldn't pursue them via jetstar in their own backyards. Qantas is killing the pig, so id expect to see them go after the competition very shortly.
They will also need to do something about lion air before the genie is out of the bottle. They have a lot of jets on the way with big expansion plans.
Id expect to see big expansion in the Asian franchises shortly.
People will always try to justify voting up a piss poor EBA. Will you hear the voices of the 75% who voted "yes" actually admit to voting it up when the next EBA comes around? I doubt it when they realise they got shafted...again!
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I was going to counter RBN's post but you know what, why bother.
If you don't like the award/job then get your application into another airline/career. It will be better for everyone, less negativity amongst the ranks & you'll hopefully find what you're looking for.
Life's too short, find something that you enjoy doing & do it.
If you don't like the award/job then get your application into another airline/career. It will be better for everyone, less negativity amongst the ranks & you'll hopefully find what you're looking for.
Life's too short, find something that you enjoy doing & do it.
Yes you are right.
I'd still expect to see frames getting put somewhere. There's 100 320s waiting in the wings after all.
I hope all 50 of the 787s go to Qantas. It does need them after all. I'm not disputing that. I'd expect Jetstar to get a few more too. They are fantastic when they are working. They are milking the cow with them right now to SEA.
In regards to Honkers, yes you are right. However management will want to save face and try another franchise.
Let's hope it's the states. I'd love Jetstar America. Tie up with jet blue and plug in from the pacific. Job done.
I'd still expect to see frames getting put somewhere. There's 100 320s waiting in the wings after all.
I hope all 50 of the 787s go to Qantas. It does need them after all. I'm not disputing that. I'd expect Jetstar to get a few more too. They are fantastic when they are working. They are milking the cow with them right now to SEA.
In regards to Honkers, yes you are right. However management will want to save face and try another franchise.
Let's hope it's the states. I'd love Jetstar America. Tie up with jet blue and plug in from the pacific. Job done.
Confirmed. With the exception of a few extras from the HK misadventure, all are replacements for Jetstar Pacific, Asia and the Australasian operation. Apart from the more recent Sharklet models, everything else will be replaced over the next few years.